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yeah man today's Tuesday August 29th 240

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left we are live from a bunker somewhere

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in downtown Burbank California another

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life to welcome everybody listening all

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States hither and thither to and fro

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faith blind for K chasey are the

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game-changer network and Katy are a the

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planets I'm host Jimmy Church what is

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now tonight tonight we have a very

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zuny historian now it's been a it's been

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a long road getting Clifford on this

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show but tonight is an important show

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you're gonna want to listen to this more

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than once and and you should but sit

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down and get comfortable because we're

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about to get our edge of McKay skin on

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tonight clifford mahooty is here the

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Zuni prophecies we're gonna go through a

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full history lesson tonight it's not

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done often enough we try to do it as

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much as we can here on fader block and

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it's about educating and and giving you

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those tools that you need to move

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forward in life and make decisions and

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and figure out why you are here and and

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where you're where you are going right

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it's all a part of of this big puzzle we

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call life and clifford mahooty is one of

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the brightest so get ready for that

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going to be here we're gonna do a full

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evening of anunnaki on the show haven't

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by the way the bunker does smell of of

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our dead guys birthdays today are

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Michael Jackson 1958 to 2009 died to

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here in Los Angeles at the age of 50 and

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Charlie Parker 19 20 yeah bird that's

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right bird 19 22 1955 died at the age of

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Parker film clips today he was that I

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mean he was singular talent and him and

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Michael had the same birthday I thought

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that was pretty cool but Charlie Parker

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issues cirrhosis of the liver and get

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some other things and he died of like

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natural causes but in the autopsy this

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is what's crazy he died at the age of 34

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and in his autopsy the doctor that did

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that literally wrote that he appeared to

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Charlie Parker bird yard bird bird

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died at the age of 34 crazy on this day

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in history Oh TD man yeah

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alright 2005 Hurricane Katrina makes

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category 4 hurricane how crazy is that

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during the anniversary pretty crazy

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fader fact now ok I know this is gonna

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sound unbelievable but this is a fader

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fact it's vetted you can go and check it

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out for yourself but here it is a couple

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of teesta couple of teaspoons of Botox

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would be enough to kill everyone

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kilogram would kill off the whole planet

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it is the most deadly toxin known to man

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that's it there is nothing deadlier and

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women and men around the world are

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injecting this into their face and you

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that's you know that they can't move

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their mouth or smile or yeah exactly

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Eric you see stuff like that and you go

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man what's what's the issue

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it's boat

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and the reason is it is so toxic right

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so obviously what is being injected into

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faces is completely diluted and watered

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down otherwise people would die but but

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the point is this it kills the nerve

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endings the nerve endings in your faith

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the nerves the ends and it kills them

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that's that's that's to erase wrinkles

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and that's why nobody can smile or move

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their face because they don't have any

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nerves left isn't that nuts Botox the

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most deadly toxin in the world two

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tablespoons wipe out the UK including

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Ireland by the way nuts all right there

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you go so I thought I'd spread that good

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cheer Botox

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all right tonight clifford mahooty is

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with us very excited about this we are

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going to have a full history lesson on

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north america tonight tomorrow night ray

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Davis is going to be here with for a

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full evening of anunnaki and yeah the

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inventor killed himself coincidence

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thank you for that blueprint new media

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ooh okay all right I dig it somebody's

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listening to the show I like that okay

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clifford mahooty tomorrow night ray

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Davis is here and then Friday or

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Thursday night Fator night with Jon

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live now let's have a talk in the field

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of psychology the dunning-kruger effect

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is a cognitive bias where we're in

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persons of low ability suffer from the

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illusion of superiority mistakingly

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address assessing their cognitive

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ability greater than it is the cognitive

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bias of this illusion of superiority

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derives from the metacognitive inability

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of low ability persons to recognize

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their own in aptitude without the

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self-awareness of metacognition

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low ability people cannot objectively

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evaluate their actual competence or

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incompetence now listen to me IPD the DK

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effect I was right now now be careful

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IPD are you saying what side of the DK

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are you on be very careful are you

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insinuating me or are you insinuating

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the audience are you insinuating trolls

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are you insinuating fate or nots are you

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insinuating something it's or the the

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UFO community where are you going with

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that well I'm going there so let me help

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you out as described by David Dunning

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and Justin Kruger the cognitive bias of

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illusion superiority results from an

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internal illusion and people of low

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ability from an external Mis

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misperception in people of high ability

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that is the MIS calibration of the

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incompetent stems from an error about

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the self whereas the MIS calibration of

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the highly confident stems from an error

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about others therefore the corollary to

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the dunning-kruger effect indicates that

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persons of high ability tend to

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underestimate their relative competence

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and erroneously presume that tasks that

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are easy for them to perform also are

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easy for other people to perform do you

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understand so far I know that you do

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although the dunning-kruger effect was

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formulated back in 1999 the cognitive

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bias of illusion superiority has been

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referred to in literature throughout

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history the psychological phenomenon of

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the illusion of superiority was

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identified as a form of cognitive bias

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in Kruger and Dunning z-- 1999 study

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called the unskilled and unaware of it

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how difficulties and recognizes one's

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own ink

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opponents lead to inflated

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self-assessments Wow

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think about this so anyone outside of a

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bar at 2:00 a.m. well played there Dan

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well played and that includes the both

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of us I like that including that night

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that you and I closed that bar and Big

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Bear yeah the the the psychological

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phenomenon of illusion superiority was

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identified in this 1999 study it derived

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from the cognitive bias evident in the

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criminal case of McArthur wheeler what's

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that

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it's my hair out of place

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Rita says I have a horn do I have a horn

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oh man it was the criminal case of

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MacArthur wheeler who robbed banks with

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his face covered with lemon juice now he

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believed that the lemon juice would make

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his face invisible two surveillance

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cameras some things you can't make up

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right Wheeler's incompetence was based

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on his misunderstanding of the chemical

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properties of lemon juice as invisible

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ink do you remember that you remember in

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grade school that was the first thing

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that you were taught about invisible ink

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right you could take lemon juice and

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take a toothpick and write out your

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message on a piece of paper and you

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couldn't see it and then you would heat

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the paper right on a radiator or heat

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you know a heater and it would blow on

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it and then you would flip it over and

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boom brown ink there and you could read

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it invisible ink

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now think about the incompetence that is

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here but he thought he was mad other

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investigations of the phenomenon which

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as such as why people fail to recognize

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their own incompetence and that was

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published back in 2003 indicate that

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much incorrect self-assessment of

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competence derives from the person's

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ignorant of a Givens activity standards

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of performance the pattern of over

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estimation of competence appeared in

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studies of reading comprehension of the

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practice of medicine of motor vehicle

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operation and of the playing of games

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such as chess and tennis Dunning and

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Kruger research also indicates that

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training in a task such as a logic

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puzzle increases people's ability to

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accurately evaluate how good they are at

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it

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wonderful that's gonna get a retweet

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well played in self insight roadblocks

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and detours on the path to knowing

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thyself published in 2005 Dunning

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described the dunning-kruger effect as

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the annus toss the anis the anis man I

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can't believe I just did that which is

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why I am doing this about the

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dunning-kruger effect listen to me I

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recognize that anybody can do this job I

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feel that I feel that I am one of you

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and I am just the guy on the microphone

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when I get somebody that comes up and

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says man you know you're a great host

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and I love listening to you and and and

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I put you in this class above everybody

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is always the same thing you know what

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I'm lucky and I'm blessed to be here I

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was always a fan of radio sitting on the

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other side and I and I wanted to

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day hopefully be put myself in the

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position of being able to ask the

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questions that I've wanted to ask over

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the years and they built up and they

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built up in my head I'm talking about

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decades right and I just wanted to be

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here finally I am in the position to do

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just that

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and I've got a gazillion questions that

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still need to be answered they just pile

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up and pile up and pile up right but I I

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have my issues I have my issues like

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trying to get through a report on

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dunning-kruger and what it is

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I recognize that so where does that put

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me in all of this let me continue

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he stated a dunning-kruger said that the

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condition in which a disabled person

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either denies or seems unaware of his or

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her own disability he stated if you're

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incompetent you can't know you're

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incompetent the skills you need to

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produce a right answer are exactly the

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same skills you need to recognize what

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an answer is Dunning and Kruger tested

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the hypothesis of the cognitive bias of

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of the illusion of superiority and

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undergraduate students of inductor II

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courses in psychology by examining the

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students self assessments of their

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intellectual skills in logical reasoning

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which was inductive deductive and

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abductive English grammar and personal

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sense of humor now after learning their

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self assessment scores the students were

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asked to estimate their ranks in the

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psychology class and this is where it

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gets interesting the group of competent

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students underestimated their class

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ranks

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while the group of incompetent students

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overestimated their ranks yet the

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incompetent group did not estimate their

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class ranks as higher than the ranks

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estimated by the competent group across

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four studies the research indicated that

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the study participants who scored in the

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bottom quarter of

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the test of their sense of humor

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knowledge of grammar and logical

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reasoning overestimated their test

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performance and they overestimated their

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abilities

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despite test scores that place them in

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the lower 12th percentile the very

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bottom the participants themselves

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estimated that they rate the bottom 12%

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they thought they were in the top 62

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percentile now

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moreover competent students tended to

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underestimate their own competence

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because they erroneously presume that

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the task easy for them to perform also

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were easy for other people to perform

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incompetent students improve their

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ability to correctly estimate their

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class rank after receiving minimal

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tutoring in the skills they previously

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lacked regardless of any objective

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improvement gained in said skills of

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perception now this is so interesting

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for us our audience and the guests that

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we have on this show the people that you

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see speaking out at conferences authors

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researchers and it's very once you once

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you start to digest this dunning-kruger

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once you once you digest it and you

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start to listen to other people and you

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start to observe and maybe take a hard

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look at yourself you start to recognize

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a little bit more about what's going on

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I do find them very very interesting

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when I hear somebody especially

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privately privately not in public but

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privately talk about their own abilities

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and other people's in abilities to know

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the facts to know what they're doing how

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long they are and how right they are

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I'm not I lose interest very very

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quickly because I'm not so sure about

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the competence of actually what's going

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on there it's the ones out there that

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move me the most I'd say quite simply I

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learned from everybody I don't know what

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all life is a journey let's figure this

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thing out together and and I love doing

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this research I've got stuff here if

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it's good and people can use it great if

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we talk about it

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fine great but you know what I want to

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listen to what everybody else has to say

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you know when I walk into a conference

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and I walk into a seminar that's going

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on and I see other researchers and

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authors there to see somebody else speak

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and they sit in the back of the room and

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they're intently listening that

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impresses me that impresses me a lot

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it's the ones that don't go to the other

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presentations that are talking smack or

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other authors out there that are talking

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smack or critics that that are doing

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that and and we see a time and time

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again it doesn't matter if it's sports

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or if it's entertainment if it's news if

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it's politics it's all dealt with in the

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same way we all have the same brains so

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always remember now make that

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observation where is this person

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actually coming from you know and do

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they think that that that they are

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superior and everybody else is

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incompetent think about that it really

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really is an interesting observation on

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life and I and I go back and I look at

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myself I have never ever ever even as a

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guitar player I pretty much sucked okay

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I was an okay guitar player I love to

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learn I love to practice I couldn't

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write songs I eventually was able to

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write songs that were you know what okay

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would never sell an album would never

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sell a record ever but but I worked

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really hard at it but I knew that there

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were so many great songwriters

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out there and and but it's the same

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thing with radio and it's the same thing

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when I was in sales or when I was in the

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audio business or producing records I

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always had the same attitude you know I

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was intimidated by everybody and I

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thought that I was just okay and I

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thought that everybody else could do

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what I am doing and that maybe I was

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faking my way through it a little bit

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when I would mix a record you know and I

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would have people come in and go man

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this just sounds so good how do you do

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it and I'm thinking to myself man

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anybody can do what I am doing right and

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now I look back that has always been my

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attitude in life I couldn't paint I

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could draw pretty good there's a really

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good industrial artisan line work with

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line in ink and I was pretty good at

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that but I couldn't paint could not

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sculpt fine arts were way I you have no

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idea how bad of a painter I was

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nauseating

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you know and I always looked at life

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like that that I was just adequate and

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okay and I feel good about myself with

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having that attitude and if I can

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attract my friends you this audience

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that we are all on the same page with

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just that we are here to learn we're not

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superior to anything and we don't think

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that we are here to learn and and figure

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this thing called life out and move

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forward

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that's what this show is about that's

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what I am here to do and I love all of

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you for just that so think about the

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dunning-kruger the next time you sit and

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listen to mr. or mrs. smartypants

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tonight we are gonna do just that we are

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going to further our education right

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here by the way that's Popeye remember

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that Popeye I'm your host Jimmy church

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this is fade to black our guest tonight

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clifford mahooty the Zuni prophecies and

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much much more

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fade to black of the GameChanger network

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in kg ra the planet I'll be right back

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you're listening to Jim easier to braid

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iam calm calm Manson we listen in the

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all right welcome back paid to block

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I'm your host Jimmy Church yeah man it's

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good to be one of those nights very

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excited because our guest tonight's

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clifford mahooty tomorrow night ray

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Davis is going to be here we're gonna do

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a full evening of the anunnaki and I

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want to remind you that Thursday night

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is another Fator night with Jon

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Rappoport and is no more fake newsroom

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live followed by open lines all night

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long but tonight it's clifford mahooty

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first time guest - crazy don't know why

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it's taken so long

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clifford is a member of the Zuni Pueblo

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Indian tribe of New Mexico hoody is a

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retired civil environmental engineer

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he's got a BS from New Mexico State back

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in 1969 and he's worked at many project

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with shale oil company the United States

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federal government in environmental

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justice for Indian tribes tribal housing

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projects in the u.s. PHS as a

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commissioned officer and

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water/wastewater in EPA enforcement in

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environmental compliance mahooty is

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active in the Zuni orders of the Kachina

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Galaxy medicine society the Sun clan

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leadership and is a wisdom keeper of the

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Zuni history now tonight stay focused

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because we are going to address ancient

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Zuni Hopi and other tribal prophecy

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concerning prophecy and eventual

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disclosure there is much misinformation

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and misinterpretation of Native American

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prophecy in our conversation tonight

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we'll set the record straight so with

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that I would like to welcome for the

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first time to fade to black

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mr. clifford mahooty welcome to the show

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and the the first time guests always

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gets the first-time guests disclaimer

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which is this is just you and I sitting

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on my couch having a conversation as

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friends where the conversation starts it

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starts where it ends it ends but we're

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gonna end as friends are you ready ok

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Clifford now I want to start here before

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we jump into the history of it all

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the history the research the archaeology

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the cultures of North America are not as

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researched or in a part of pop culture

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like say Egypt is or Greece or Rome or

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even the Mayans and and the Aztecs in

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Central and South America but when it

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comes to North America it seems like it

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gets ignored and I'm pretty angry about

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that why do you think that is well I

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believe because when when the what we

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call America which is a white man first

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came here back in 1540 which was through

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Coronado's expedition from Mexico and

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ever since that time that there had been

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the exploitation rather than exploration

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but I believe that the original

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inhabitants which were the American

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Indian were not looked upon as somebody

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that had the technological advancements

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had anything to offer to the rest of the

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world so they sort of treated them as

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savages I think a lot of books are

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written where it says that they were

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savage I had no no connection to

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anything they were just out here but

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they were primarily after the minerals

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and and and other valuable assets of the

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land so they didn't pay too much

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attention to well as here already as

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perhaps like in Mitchell America where

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they're at the big temples that were

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were the Aztecs the Incas and the Mayans

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when they had vast empires but out here

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they were sparsely located throughout

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the great land and also they had no

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great temples to speak of but at that

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time that in those days that they had

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they looked upon them as savages that

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were just

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perhaps like the rest of other animals

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they were here so they treated them as

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such when you look at some of the

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temples here in North America certainly

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like with the Anasazi comes to mind

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first but the petroglyphs and the mounds

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and the things that are across this this

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great country they it should be a part

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of the educational system around the

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world and it is not and and I just don't

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get the ignorance and why they want to

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they feel the need even today to push it

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to the side and talk about other things

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first

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well I think that they look upon it as

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this was as in all history books

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Columbus is Christopher Columbus

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discovered America or discovered this

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land actually this is by all indigenous

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groups it's referred to as the old world

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and there's also history if you look

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into the history and of other places for

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example at the wreck Grand Canyon and

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even our own history they talk about

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some of the people that were here before

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they went across always forward to other

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islands which is Europe and other

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nations across the oceans there's

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history of the Egyptians here in the

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Grand Canyon the Buddhists and also way

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back when the Chinese were already over

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here too far to about way back in the

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2000 about two thousand years before

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which we looked at for example way back

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in about 2250 BC a Chinese Buddhist

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priest by the name of Yahoo au was here

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and he recorded a lot of things that

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is very true to what later on his

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another Chinese came by the name of wish

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on which came back and retraced his

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route approximately 500 AD and he

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verified of the fact that what he saw

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the original you saw was that it's in

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the same place the same distances and

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also the Zuri's also of a history of the

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Chinese mean right next to their village

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way back about probably about fifteen to

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fourteen fifteen to sixteen hundred and

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they they were here when the Spanish

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first came around so this is if people

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only looked at the American Indian

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history they research it there's records

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out there and there's also places what

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they call ruins and monuments that talk

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about these things and also petroglyphs

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also right next to the original

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petroglyphs pictographs and so on or the

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Chinese that put their engravings right

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next to the original American Indians so

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there's a lot of proof out there the

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scientific proof which I look at has a

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very good evidence to prove that they

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were here at this time when when you are

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talking with a group of people about

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this subject what is your what is your

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go to sacred site that you want to

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discuss first well first of all it's at

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Bank Canyon right and and then usually

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the second one is the Chuckle called for

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which is in northern New Mexico and also

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00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:16,390
the camp having a Mesa Verde in Colorado

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00:41:22,110 --> 00:41:19,870
right and they and there's really also

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00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:22,120
was at the same period you don't hear

775
00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:23,950
very much about it it's called a yellow

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00:41:27,529 --> 00:41:25,660
yellow house

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00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:27,539
once which is the same age as the

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Chuckle the chapel culture and there's

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00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:34,839
other smaller places like Kenya and

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00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:38,950
deshay in northern Arizona which is now

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00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:43,390
in on the Navajo Reservation but there's

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many many other places which are not as

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00:41:52,890 --> 00:41:49,359
big like for example in Arizona

784
00:41:56,370 --> 00:41:52,900
places like Sedona clear down down south

785
00:42:00,120 --> 00:41:56,380
to Phoenix and they'll even clear to the

786
00:42:05,630 --> 00:42:00,130
to the Pacific coast which they haven't

787
00:42:09,870 --> 00:42:05,640
been excavated yet the now you are

788
00:42:11,970 --> 00:42:09,880
you're from the Sun tribe right no I'm

789
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:11,980
from the Zuni tribe members South clan

790
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:15,609
the Sun clan I apologize for that that

791
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:17,440
but you're from the Sun clan of the Zuni

792
00:42:28,190 --> 00:42:22,240
tribe right and when when it comes to

793
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:28,200
the Zuni and their history in in in

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North America how far back are we going

795
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:38,950
back again to 2000 BC well if you look

796
00:42:50,970 --> 00:42:44,490
at the with the Ice Age ended

797
00:42:54,539 --> 00:42:50,980
approximately 2500 BC so the the Indians

798
00:42:57,450 --> 00:42:54,549
have always been said or at least Hopi

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00:42:59,960 --> 00:42:57,460
and Zuni time I'm very aware of they've

800
00:43:03,329 --> 00:42:59,970
always said that we had been here before

801
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:03,339
but there is a lot of integration of

802
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:06,160
different groups that had journeys

803
00:43:13,019 --> 00:43:10,930
throughout the the Southwest he could

804
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:13,029
hurry up to be I guess at the age of

805
00:43:22,579 --> 00:43:17,650
eight I say Jetta at that time northern

806
00:43:29,059 --> 00:43:22,589
probably north of Utah present Utah and

807
00:43:32,660 --> 00:43:29,069
so we're talking about 4000 BC and I've

808
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:32,670
researched quite a bit about this and

809
00:43:39,020 --> 00:43:36,450
where my research started was in the

810
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:39,030
prayers and the chance and

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00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:43,650
ceremonies and also the per system that

812
00:43:49,550 --> 00:43:46,050
we talked about in Zune and I got to be

813
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:49,560
very curious about this at a young age

814
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:51,450
and I had a lot of elders

815
00:43:59,090 --> 00:43:54,810
so the repetition has always been that

816
00:44:03,320 --> 00:43:59,100
we came from from this from the West and

817
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:03,330
is that the research from some more a

818
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:05,970
compass found we'll find out that at one

819
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:08,010
time there was a place called the Maria

820
00:44:14,780 --> 00:44:11,130
or a moon so I've read a lot of books on

821
00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:14,790
that and what really is is kind of

822
00:44:21,380 --> 00:44:17,910
interesting is that when we talk about

823
00:44:25,070 --> 00:44:21,390
that in our prayer system and a literal

824
00:44:28,430 --> 00:44:25,080
chance it always refers to coming from

825
00:44:31,580 --> 00:44:28,440
the West and the journeys that were

826
00:44:34,850 --> 00:44:31,590
evolved throughout the ages and we

827
00:44:36,820 --> 00:44:34,860
eventually come here we were not the we

828
00:44:41,210 --> 00:44:36,830
were not the only try it here they were

829
00:44:46,070 --> 00:44:41,220
according to our history there are so

830
00:44:48,740 --> 00:44:46,080
much population when they when the

831
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:48,750
exodus from the mariya they came here to

832
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:51,090
what is termed the Turtle Island people

833
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:53,280
already planned right

834
00:44:59,570 --> 00:44:55,410
there were so many people that they had

835
00:45:02,090 --> 00:44:59,580
to eventually break up into groups so a

836
00:45:05,810 --> 00:45:02,100
lot of them went south for example like

837
00:45:08,660 --> 00:45:05,820
but if you look at a Mayan Indian or if

838
00:45:11,260 --> 00:45:08,670
you go down through the Inca tribes and

839
00:45:14,540 --> 00:45:11,270
other tribes that are found in Mexico

840
00:45:16,340 --> 00:45:14,550
you can I've made a mistake many times

841
00:45:18,260 --> 00:45:16,350
they're looking at those people and I

842
00:45:19,370 --> 00:45:18,270
thought they were from power what do

843
00:45:24,530 --> 00:45:19,380
people over here

844
00:45:28,370 --> 00:45:24,540
and so they they all we basically look

845
00:45:30,980 --> 00:45:28,380
alike and but this is thousands of years

846
00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:30,990
ago what about they yeah what about the

847
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:33,540
DNA testing that has gone on is there a

848
00:45:39,460 --> 00:45:34,850
connection

849
00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:39,470
well I don't know any idea there's any

850
00:45:47,090 --> 00:45:43,980
look for it but I can't really find any

851
00:45:49,340 --> 00:45:47,100
evidence of it but I'm sure that if

852
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:49,350
somebody need a real good research on it

853
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:52,210
I'm sure there is some out there

854
00:45:55,290 --> 00:45:53,890
but I just haven't had a chance to

855
00:46:01,650 --> 00:45:55,300
really look at it from the biological

856
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:01,660
standpoint I'm pre well vision is on the

857
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:06,070
prayers a chance and the songs because

858
00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:08,410
in one of our prayer I mean a song

859
00:46:16,190 --> 00:46:12,510
groups there's actually 19 locations

860
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:16,200
that made a sort of a circular turn

861
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:19,690
going south and coming back in there and

862
00:46:24,089 --> 00:46:21,670
then finally come to Zuni now that's

863
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:24,099
only one group now there was hundreds of

864
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:27,130
groups and they're still evident today

865
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:30,310
with the petrol is petrol is also a

866
00:46:37,230 --> 00:46:33,910
powder story about where they had been

867
00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:37,240
or their routes it's not only a one

868
00:46:43,980 --> 00:46:39,849
panel in other words it summary will be

869
00:46:46,650 --> 00:46:43,990
in one Canyon and then further down on a

870
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:46,660
different part of the country will be a

871
00:46:52,829 --> 00:46:49,599
continuous of that doing a lot of

872
00:46:55,950 --> 00:46:52,839
research on this type of petroglyphs and

873
00:46:59,460 --> 00:46:55,960
I've had a lot of help from others so

874
00:47:02,579 --> 00:46:59,470
it's it's a very very broad base and

875
00:47:05,660 --> 00:47:02,589
it's unfortunate that some of our Indian

876
00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:05,670
people haven't gone into this type of

877
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:09,369
work like archeology anthropology and

878
00:47:16,859 --> 00:47:13,089
all that and there are not very many

879
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:16,869
schools that specialize in that I want

880
00:47:21,780 --> 00:47:19,119
to talk about that right now actually

881
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:21,790
you start off I've heard you do this so

882
00:47:29,339 --> 00:47:24,010
many times now you start off your

883
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:29,349
presentation each time with a prayer can

884
00:47:38,730 --> 00:47:33,280
yeah can you I'd like to hear the prayer

885
00:47:42,210 --> 00:47:38,740
right now can you do it for us basic

886
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:42,220
prayer and it usually says what I

887
00:47:48,660 --> 00:47:46,450
usually say is that I open up all our so

888
00:47:53,070 --> 00:47:48,670
called channels of communication with

889
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:53,080
not only the the above world people the

890
00:48:00,089 --> 00:47:55,770
people that are on the planet but also

891
00:48:03,630 --> 00:48:00,099
with underworld people or the in turn

892
00:48:06,319 --> 00:48:03,640
interior of the earth people and so

893
00:48:09,779 --> 00:48:06,329
usually I start out by

894
00:48:13,410 --> 00:48:09,789
talking in zuly for example I start up

895
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:13,420
using my language and I say mother sit

896
00:48:18,450 --> 00:48:16,210
down and they look a up on their own I

897
00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:18,460
had to tape a Chilean traditional year

898
00:48:25,859 --> 00:48:22,150
and a Quaker now narrative this Ileana

899
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:25,869
Allah delicate and Liam are we gonna be

900
00:48:31,489 --> 00:48:28,690
and you had a national iam Asha and

901
00:48:34,769 --> 00:48:31,499
Malema nacho and labor let you take

902
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:34,779
business our Katya hundred hours pnina

903
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:37,569
tornai answer to not in a you later

904
00:48:44,849 --> 00:48:40,569
national product and don't go to update

905
00:48:47,999 --> 00:48:44,859
on Maui didn't it how IBM John Deere you

906
00:48:50,849 --> 00:48:48,009
can SPU Jumeirah not an accurate on pic

907
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:50,859
of my initial it's a very short career

908
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:53,920
saying that they were opening up the the

909
00:49:00,660 --> 00:48:57,210
channel throughout the Apple people they

910
00:49:04,769 --> 00:49:00,670
the star people in this case all the

911
00:49:07,979 --> 00:49:04,779
different be demagogues that ruled the

912
00:49:10,829 --> 00:49:07,989
planet and also the interior beings

913
00:49:15,269 --> 00:49:10,839
which includes the one that went before

914
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:15,279
us and because they were Indian people

915
00:49:19,380 --> 00:49:17,920
don't do not die the body dies but the

916
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:19,390
soul still goes on

917
00:49:24,959 --> 00:49:22,210
so I'm asking them for guidance so that

918
00:49:27,569 --> 00:49:24,969
we can make each other understand what

919
00:49:30,859 --> 00:49:27,579
our purpose is and to continue to love

920
00:49:34,410 --> 00:49:30,869
each other our planet our mother earth

921
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:34,420
with each other and to understand each

922
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:38,319
other and and to ask our son father for

923
00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:41,200
the light to carry us through the end of

924
00:49:45,859 --> 00:49:43,359
our lives so it's it's very

925
00:49:50,549 --> 00:49:45,869
sophisticated can be very sophisticated

926
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:50,559
but we usually when I work with a lot of

927
00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:52,089
groups it doesn't make any difference

928
00:49:58,349 --> 00:49:55,359
what group that's always the prayer in

929
00:50:00,599 --> 00:49:58,359
all Indian tribes that to open upon to

930
00:50:04,109 --> 00:50:00,609
open a prayer so that work actually

931
00:50:07,170 --> 00:50:04,119
we're asking for their guidance and also

932
00:50:10,259 --> 00:50:07,180
to give us the voice through us so that

933
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:10,269
we can convey the messages to whatever

934
00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:14,319
we're getting together for and so this

935
00:50:22,469 --> 00:50:19,599
is a it's all it's a very big formality

936
00:50:25,859 --> 00:50:22,479
the Pueblo people then most other Indian

937
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:25,869
tribes so this is why we have to have a

938
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:29,890
prayer and it's just part of the the

939
00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:33,359
living day so some of us or most of us

940
00:50:40,620 --> 00:50:37,630
we open with a prayer every morning

941
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:40,630
before we do our chores or before we go

942
00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:43,839
to work or whatever it is so we also

943
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:47,470
bless the land and ask for guidance this

944
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:51,450
is a yeah go ahead and finish I'm sorry

945
00:50:58,370 --> 00:50:55,569
well this is this is what people are we

946
00:51:01,890 --> 00:50:58,380
have been taught since we were little

947
00:51:05,789 --> 00:51:01,900
little guys and so we continue to do

948
00:51:11,729 --> 00:51:05,799
this whole formal activities within the

949
00:51:14,099 --> 00:51:11,739
tribes go through this so that's opening

950
00:51:16,380 --> 00:51:14,109
up the channel so to speak yeah I've

951
00:51:18,269 --> 00:51:16,390
heard I want you to help me understand

952
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:18,279
something because I've heard you say

953
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:23,170
this that the Zuni language the Zuni

954
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:27,910
have their own language right and and

955
00:51:34,279 --> 00:51:31,089
that that is unique help me understand

956
00:51:37,380 --> 00:51:34,289
what you're what you're saying there

957
00:51:41,459 --> 00:51:37,390
well yes there's only have their own

958
00:51:44,999 --> 00:51:41,469
language and it is only unique within

959
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:45,009
the tribe other tribes they can

960
00:51:50,459 --> 00:51:47,920
understand each other even though

961
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:50,469
they're separated by different villages

962
00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:54,930
right and people have tried the linguist

963
00:52:03,420 --> 00:51:59,680
Rutan chronologies archaeology tantalum

964
00:52:06,539 --> 00:52:03,430
linguist and so on have tried to trace

965
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:06,549
it back court at this language come from

966
00:52:15,410 --> 00:52:09,609
it's not relating to any other language

967
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:15,420
in the world not not the Polynesian or

968
00:52:22,410 --> 00:52:19,930
Chinese or Spanish you know pick pick

969
00:52:33,810 --> 00:52:22,420
another language right it's it's it's

970
00:52:41,550 --> 00:52:36,450
and she wrote that book called as early

971
00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:41,560
enigma yes the Zuni no yes enigma the

972
00:52:49,140 --> 00:52:44,590
author is Nancy y'all David yep

973
00:52:52,350 --> 00:52:49,150
she she tried very hard to connect the

974
00:52:57,420 --> 00:52:52,360
Zuni language with some Chinese group

975
00:53:00,060 --> 00:52:57,430
and I met her back in 1991 when she

976
00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:00,070
first came out with her book it's called

977
00:53:05,370 --> 00:53:03,310
a Zuni enigma and there was a lot of

978
00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:05,380
different things that I did not agree

979
00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:08,950
with it actually I tried to help her but

980
00:53:15,380 --> 00:53:12,910
maybe my delivery of trying to get her

981
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:15,390
to talk to me was wrong because she

982
00:53:20,940 --> 00:53:17,920
didn't want to talk to me because I

983
00:53:24,810 --> 00:53:20,950
could have helped her with some of the

984
00:53:27,810 --> 00:53:24,820
words which were really off and I later

985
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:27,820
found out who her informant in Zuni was

986
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:31,930
and that that person is now going to the

987
00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:35,050
happy hunting grounds but she she tried

988
00:53:47,610 --> 00:53:45,460
very hard and she she said - she went -

989
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:47,620
to the point to where she tried to I

990
00:53:56,910 --> 00:53:51,810
told her this way I say he tried to put

991
00:54:01,740 --> 00:53:56,920
square pegs into round holes but I can

992
00:54:04,410 --> 00:54:01,750
help you with the adjustment of the the

993
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:04,420
word so that it will mean something so

994
00:54:13,710 --> 00:54:07,690
see that the Chinese were here in like I

995
00:54:15,780 --> 00:54:13,720
said back in about 1500 and there we

996
00:54:18,660 --> 00:54:15,790
have history of them they were they left

997
00:54:20,490 --> 00:54:18,670
right after the Spanish came and they

998
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:20,500
declared war against the Zuni and

999
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:23,290
actually they helped the Zulus

1000
00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:26,890
fight the Spanish and why would I not go

1001
00:54:31,230 --> 00:54:29,470
that day oh I'm sorry go ahead go ahead

1002
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:31,240
Clifford I keep interrupting you I don't

1003
00:54:37,890 --> 00:54:36,010
mean to the question is what all the

1004
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:37,900
other tribes and the names that we're

1005
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:40,090
familiar with like the Apache or the

1006
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:43,330
Navajo or Comanche across the country

1007
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:45,910
can they understand

1008
00:54:52,529 --> 00:54:50,319
zooni and do the Zuni understand the

1009
00:54:56,329 --> 00:54:52,539
other Indian tribes at least a little

1010
00:55:01,140 --> 00:54:56,339
bit or is it just completely separate

1011
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:01,150
well the Navajo and Apaches are actually

1012
00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:04,089
like from the same group right they call

1013
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:06,609
them they call themselves the Athabascan

1014
00:55:14,579 --> 00:55:10,089
and they're the ones that went through

1015
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:14,589
Berea remember the remember the land

1016
00:55:20,730 --> 00:55:17,130
bridge up in the Bering Sea that's right

1017
00:55:25,260 --> 00:55:20,740
and so there they came they came right

1018
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:25,270
after maybe during the last of the

1019
00:55:31,140 --> 00:55:28,690
inhabitants of charcoal and they came

1020
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:31,150
all the way from Alaska if you look at

1021
00:55:37,289 --> 00:55:35,410
Alaska the people there and throughout

1022
00:55:40,589 --> 00:55:37,299
Canada they're they're also called

1023
00:55:42,750 --> 00:55:40,599
Athabascan so when they came over here

1024
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:42,760
there were newcomers to this part of the

1025
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:47,200
world and if you I think that they're

1026
00:55:54,510 --> 00:55:51,760
based upon their way their culture is

1027
00:55:58,109 --> 00:55:54,520
they they might they might be the branch

1028
00:56:00,720 --> 00:55:58,119
of the Mongolian people because they're

1029
00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:00,730
their culture is similar to them you

1030
00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:03,369
know like the genius Kong Kublai Khan

1031
00:56:11,099 --> 00:56:07,510
connection those are the people they

1032
00:56:15,450 --> 00:56:11,109
gave the name Anasazi to the Pueblo

1033
00:56:18,690 --> 00:56:15,460
people and so all the people people

1034
00:56:21,059 --> 00:56:18,700
don't like that term given them because

1035
00:56:25,650 --> 00:56:21,069
each one of us have our own name which

1036
00:56:30,660 --> 00:56:25,660
had been since since when we first came

1037
00:56:32,609 --> 00:56:30,670
here or or made here in many cases let's

1038
00:56:34,529 --> 00:56:32,619
take a break right here Clifford is so

1039
00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:34,539
be our first break we'll pick up right

1040
00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:36,809
here when we come back our guest tonight

1041
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:39,760
clifford mahooty now we are tonight

1042
00:56:45,390 --> 00:56:43,119
we're doing an oral history and we're

1043
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:45,400
gonna discuss the Zuni prophecies and

1044
00:56:49,980 --> 00:56:47,890
for once and for all Ben we are going to

1045
00:56:52,049 --> 00:56:49,990
attempt to set the record straight

1046
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:52,059
tonight this is fade to black our guest

1047
00:56:55,940 --> 00:56:53,650
clifford mahooty I'm your host Jimmy

1048
00:57:11,130 --> 00:56:55,950
Church we'll be right back stay with us

1049
00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:13,890
[Music]

1050
00:57:20,109 --> 00:57:16,640
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1051
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1056
00:57:45,490 --> 00:57:43,460
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1057
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1058
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all right welcome back

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01:00:50,230 --> 01:00:48,080
fade to black I'm your host Jimmy Church

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01:00:53,170 --> 01:00:50,240
our guest tonight clifford mahooty and

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we are going to discuss North American

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01:00:59,020 --> 01:00:55,460
history Native American history of

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01:01:02,440 --> 01:00:59,030
course sacred sites and the Zuni

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01:01:08,650 --> 01:01:02,450
prophecies and and Clifford I wanted to

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start here when when we are talking

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01:01:17,170 --> 01:01:14,000
about extraterrestrials and and et I

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think pop culture is one thing and then

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01:01:25,930 --> 01:01:20,780
we have the rest of history around us

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01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:25,940
that it seems to me that the connection

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01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:28,970
to ET in the past is largely ignored or

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01:01:36,190 --> 01:01:33,280
even laughed about today but not with

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01:01:39,450 --> 01:01:36,200
the the tribes of North America I think

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01:01:47,250 --> 01:01:39,460
that they recognize the contact with

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01:01:53,500 --> 01:01:47,260
what is going on in in the Stars yes

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01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:53,510
there's also a sort of like a like you

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01:02:01,750 --> 01:01:56,210
say a pop culture interpretation of what

1130
01:02:04,690 --> 01:02:01,760
we call the sky people or star people

1131
01:02:09,750 --> 01:02:04,700
and I think that I have tried to explain

1132
01:02:13,660 --> 01:02:09,760
to them what the term Kachina means

1133
01:02:15,850 --> 01:02:13,670
Kachina is when you say a Kachina the

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01:02:19,390 --> 01:02:15,860
first thing that comes to their mind is

1135
01:02:22,690 --> 01:02:19,400
a little tall that is the curial piece

1136
01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:22,700
usually made by the Hopi for the Zuni or

1137
01:02:32,860 --> 01:02:27,680
or or lately of the things that are made

1138
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:32,870
in Taiwan right so this is this was

1139
01:02:41,110 --> 01:02:39,170
actually used as a as a tool to talk

1140
01:02:45,340 --> 01:02:41,120
about spirituality in the connection

1141
01:02:47,650 --> 01:02:45,350
with other beings throughout the

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01:02:50,890 --> 01:02:47,660
universe when you're a little kid or a

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01:02:55,660 --> 01:02:50,900
little boy or a little girl and so but

1144
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:55,670
the term Kachina and you the common term

1145
01:02:59,770 --> 01:02:56,240
they

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01:03:04,930 --> 01:02:59,780
this cocoa I think one of the New Ager

1147
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:04,940
thing is a Kokopelli that there's there

1148
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:07,930
is a lot of reference to that type of a

1149
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:12,050
Kachina but I think that they've usually

1150
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:14,690
interpreted many things but these are

1151
01:03:20,850 --> 01:03:17,210
the Kachina or reference to the star

1152
01:03:24,550 --> 01:03:20,860
people and and they're well what about

1153
01:03:30,150 --> 01:03:24,560
what about your belief with the Blue

1154
01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:30,160
Star Kachina well I think I covered this

1155
01:03:39,010 --> 01:03:38,510
at the Mount Shasta meeting the it's a

1156
01:03:45,910 --> 01:03:39,020
hoax

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01:03:50,740 --> 01:03:45,920
as the story goes it says that the Blue

1158
01:03:55,180 --> 01:03:50,750
Star Kachina work will dance in the Hopi

1159
01:03:59,470 --> 01:03:55,190
Plaza and when she during a dance time

1160
01:04:04,330 --> 01:03:59,480
he will take off his his Kachina matched

1161
01:04:08,110 --> 01:04:04,340
and he will be a Ichi somebody make that

1162
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:08,120
story up many not know maybe 20-30 years

1163
01:04:13,740 --> 01:04:10,850
ago and everybody picked it up and

1164
01:04:17,170 --> 01:04:13,750
they're not only they're a Blue Star

1165
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:17,180
Kachina but they also included a red

1166
01:04:24,190 --> 01:04:20,770
star Kachina so if you looked at that

1167
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:24,200
presentation I did at Mount Shasta I

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01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:28,400
remember that video had of this Hopi

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01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:32,930
elders am Oliver he does told her but it

1170
01:04:39,070 --> 01:04:36,400
said that is a hoax that's a Hopi guy

1171
01:04:43,510 --> 01:04:39,080
let's talk about the first Mesa OB

1172
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:43,520
elders story because as you know I was I

1173
01:04:50,350 --> 01:04:46,850
was mesmerised by your presentation and

1174
01:04:52,030 --> 01:04:50,360
I made a mental note to myself to make

1175
01:04:54,580 --> 01:04:52,040
sure that we talked about that tonight

1176
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:54,590
it was a it was a great part of your

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01:04:59,820 --> 01:04:57,650
presentation so tell us the story of the

1178
01:05:08,100 --> 01:04:59,830
Hopi elder

1179
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:08,110
he's from first Mesa he's the last of

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01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:12,730
the the elders of the what they call the

1181
01:05:17,610 --> 01:05:14,770
nine elders he was taught by the nine

1182
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:17,620
elders and he is actually the head

1183
01:05:24,270 --> 01:05:20,770
priest his status of the first Mesa

1184
01:05:26,750 --> 01:05:24,280
people and that Mesa is made up of

1185
01:05:30,270 --> 01:05:26,760
different groups like they call it the

1186
01:05:32,100 --> 01:05:30,280
the hähnel which is the original

1187
01:05:36,620 --> 01:05:32,110
inhabitants of that area

1188
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:36,630
the Hopi themselves and also the Tewa

1189
01:05:43,830 --> 01:05:39,690
the tea where the hähnel people were

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01:05:45,780 --> 01:05:43,840
supposedly there during the time of the

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01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:45,790
first mace of people and their first got

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01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:48,400
there and then the pay where people came

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01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:53,440
in prior to the Spanish way back about

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01:06:00,270 --> 01:05:56,290
what about 1580 or somewhere in that

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01:06:03,930 --> 01:06:00,280
that part so they there's a group there

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01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:03,940
but it's in Sodom it's the first Mesa

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01:06:10,290 --> 01:06:06,160
going into the Hopi reservation coming

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01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:10,300
from the east and so he talks about all

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01:06:15,150 --> 01:06:11,890
the different things that have happened

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01:06:17,900 --> 01:06:15,160
and each Mesa has their own histories

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01:06:20,070 --> 01:06:17,910
it's like it's just like anywhere else

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01:06:22,670 --> 01:06:20,080
even though they're the same group

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01:06:27,090 --> 01:06:22,680
they're from all different groups

1204
01:06:31,260 --> 01:06:27,100
according to my understanding I it's

1205
01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:31,270
very difficult to exactly get the same

1206
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:33,910
information from the same people in the

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01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:37,090
individual villages but is the one that

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01:06:42,470 --> 01:06:39,760
they wanted to make sure that this word

1209
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:42,480
is out that there is no such thing as a

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01:06:49,050 --> 01:06:46,000
the Blue Star Kachina or the Red Star

1211
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:49,060
Kachina that's that's a hoax that was

1212
01:06:58,290 --> 01:06:53,050
written by many book writers what is it

1213
01:07:01,320 --> 01:06:58,300
about every sacred site that I have been

1214
01:07:04,380 --> 01:07:01,330
to now I haven't been to that many maybe

1215
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:04,390
a dozen half a dozen to a dozen but I

1216
01:07:09,060 --> 01:07:06,250
can assure you and you're gonna laugh

1217
01:07:12,210 --> 01:07:09,070
when I say this but I can assure you

1218
01:07:14,089 --> 01:07:12,220
that every site that I have gone to I

1219
01:07:17,420 --> 01:07:14,099
have seen

1220
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:17,430
strange things I have felt strange

1221
01:07:25,999 --> 01:07:21,170
things I have closed my eyes and seen

1222
01:07:30,859 --> 01:07:26,009
things that I can't explain now for me

1223
01:07:34,309 --> 01:07:30,869
I'm I'm shocked and I'm in wonder I'm in

1224
01:07:36,170 --> 01:07:34,319
awe but for the American Indians for you

1225
01:07:38,719 --> 01:07:36,180
for the Native American and you guys

1226
01:07:40,969 --> 01:07:38,729
have been talking about this and and

1227
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:40,979
it's been a part of your culture going

1228
01:07:46,759 --> 01:07:44,210
back thousands of years what is going on

1229
01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:46,769
on these sites around the country

1230
01:07:54,549 --> 01:07:51,359
whether it's light orbs or or or beings

1231
01:07:57,710 --> 01:07:54,559
or interdimensional things or even

1232
01:07:59,779 --> 01:07:57,720
out-of-body experiences and even Bigfoot

1233
01:08:04,039 --> 01:07:59,789
for that matter too as well what's going

1234
01:08:07,309 --> 01:08:04,049
on at these sacred sites well according

1235
01:08:10,910 --> 01:08:07,319
to our teachings and according to our

1236
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:10,920
rituals and prayers they were when this

1237
01:08:19,099 --> 01:08:17,130
this was a water planet when I don't

1238
01:08:26,030 --> 01:08:19,109
know how many millions maybe even

1239
01:08:29,599 --> 01:08:26,040
billions of years ago the emissary's or

1240
01:08:31,910 --> 01:08:29,609
the sky people of the Creator in our

1241
01:08:34,930 --> 01:08:31,920
teachings improvise the earth energy

1242
01:08:37,339 --> 01:08:34,940
systems and activated the

1243
01:08:40,700 --> 01:08:37,349
multi-dimensional communication network

1244
01:08:43,459 --> 01:08:40,710
for humans and spiritual contact for

1245
01:08:45,379 --> 01:08:43,469
example President Li Xun is still

1246
01:08:48,530 --> 01:08:45,389
practice the concepts and also a

1247
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:48,540
spiritual and sacred places that

1248
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:50,310
emanates these type of thing you're

1249
01:08:54,589 --> 01:08:51,210
talking about

1250
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:54,599
there are many spirit beings with humans

1251
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:57,449
at sacred sites and we also call them

1252
01:09:04,249 --> 01:08:59,759
their original the way that the zone is

1253
01:09:07,729 --> 01:09:04,259
explained it is that there we have those

1254
01:09:12,499 --> 01:09:07,739
are the humans or in the Indians we call

1255
01:09:15,589 --> 01:09:12,509
in our places of payments with the the

1256
01:09:17,149 --> 01:09:15,599
spirit beings and they're active

1257
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:17,159
they've always been active and they

1258
01:09:24,140 --> 01:09:20,330
usually what you're called sacred sites

1259
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:24,150
they're usually around springs in the

1260
01:09:31,420 --> 01:09:27,770
original environment right in mountains

1261
01:09:36,430 --> 01:09:31,430
for example I up there what's that mouth

1262
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:36,440
and they're caught late that Adams Mons

1263
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:38,690
is one of them we were there last week

1264
01:09:45,820 --> 01:09:43,130
at the Mount Shasta yeah you you wrote

1265
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:45,830
it right here in Arizona it's the San

1266
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:48,170
Francisco Peaks outsider Albert

1267
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:51,770
I mean Flagstaff Arizona right you go to

1268
01:09:56,830 --> 01:09:54,290
the Sandia Mountains where they got the

1269
01:09:59,800 --> 01:09:56,840
biggest nuclear activity the

1270
01:10:02,680 --> 01:09:59,810
nanotechnology Center is the sacred

1271
01:10:05,260 --> 01:10:02,690
mountain for all the portable people and

1272
01:10:07,750 --> 01:10:05,270
there has been always coming out of

1273
01:10:10,810 --> 01:10:07,760
there even before Albuquerque was

1274
01:10:14,110 --> 01:10:10,820
settled and there's many shrines over

1275
01:10:15,420 --> 01:10:14,120
there and you go to any for example over

1276
01:10:20,230 --> 01:10:15,430
at Sedona

1277
01:10:24,370 --> 01:10:20,240
she don't add a lot of vortices right

1278
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:24,380
they have a lot of sort of like when

1279
01:10:29,530 --> 01:10:26,570
when people go there they have this

1280
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:29,540
mission time or or beings that actually

1281
01:10:38,620 --> 01:10:33,530
come treat them not the camo camo dudes

1282
01:10:41,170 --> 01:10:38,630
but the real beans and then through

1283
01:10:44,370 --> 01:10:41,180
pages the portal people abandon the

1284
01:10:47,890 --> 01:10:44,380
original places and move to their

1285
01:10:50,530 --> 01:10:47,900
president villages and the poppy the

1286
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:50,540
reason that they move this as many it's

1287
01:10:54,730 --> 01:10:52,370
not because that the spirit people

1288
01:10:58,060 --> 01:10:54,740
Poland the move is because if they had

1289
01:11:01,690 --> 01:10:58,070
English ins from what they call the talk

1290
01:11:04,750 --> 01:11:01,700
force people he went way back 1000 and

1291
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:04,760
thousands of years ago they also had

1292
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:09,170
what we termed today in that the dog dog

1293
01:11:16,150 --> 01:11:12,410
force people on the planet so if you go

1294
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:16,160
to a sacred site you can see and

1295
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:19,760
actually you can see orbs circling

1296
01:11:25,750 --> 01:11:22,910
around you or when you get in there say

1297
01:11:28,300 --> 01:11:25,760
that you walk into a cave or a sacred

1298
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:28,310
site you feel like you have lost a lot

1299
01:11:35,980 --> 01:11:32,090
of time and when you come out of there

1300
01:11:39,610 --> 01:11:35,990
you feel like you don't feel physically

1301
01:11:41,610 --> 01:11:39,620
what did you should feel but and it's

1302
01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:41,620
the energy forces that are

1303
01:11:50,110 --> 01:11:44,960
according to our people that are you are

1304
01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:50,120
in the presence of spiritual beings and

1305
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:52,400
some of them might call me then there's

1306
01:12:00,490 --> 01:11:57,970
many kinds including ETS Bigfoot other

1307
01:12:03,220 --> 01:12:00,500
even the little what we call the little

1308
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:03,230
people all Indian tribes have a

1309
01:12:08,230 --> 01:12:06,410
reference to their little people so like

1310
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:08,240
back in you know like in England they

1311
01:12:12,370 --> 01:12:10,010
had their little goblins and the fairies

1312
01:12:15,340 --> 01:12:12,380
mm-hmm fairy circles and all that so

1313
01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:15,350
it's all over the planet and of course

1314
01:12:21,730 --> 01:12:18,560
they're they're connected to each other

1315
01:12:24,190 --> 01:12:21,740
with the ley lines the electromagnetic

1316
01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:24,200
setup actually the earth is a very

1317
01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:29,510
sophisticated in electric scientific

1318
01:12:34,690 --> 01:12:33,110
machine yeah who even though we call it

1319
01:12:37,660 --> 01:12:34,700
mother earth so there's a lot of

1320
01:12:41,470 --> 01:12:37,670
connections also the the Pueblo people

1321
01:12:43,950 --> 01:12:41,480
believe in the inner world the inner

1322
01:12:47,950 --> 01:12:43,960
world people or the inner world beings

1323
01:12:49,630 --> 01:12:47,960
especially the sophisticated orders such

1324
01:12:52,780 --> 01:12:49,640
as the medicine order it's the

1325
01:12:54,970 --> 01:12:52,790
priesthood the priesthood were the

1326
01:12:59,380 --> 01:12:54,980
original people that could connect

1327
01:13:01,360 --> 01:12:59,390
directly with the ETS like for example a

1328
01:13:05,230 --> 01:13:01,370
parallel would be the Pharaohs of Egypt

1329
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:05,240
and they had a different DNA they had a

1330
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:09,410
different physical makeup if you look at

1331
01:13:15,580 --> 01:13:13,250
takes remember the extended skulls yes

1332
01:13:19,210 --> 01:13:15,590
tavon coverage not only in Egypt but in

1333
01:13:22,260 --> 01:13:19,220
South America then and when when the

1334
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:22,270
beans that came from from the other

1335
01:13:28,690 --> 01:13:26,480
universe parts they came over here they

1336
01:13:31,780 --> 01:13:28,700
actually make those according to our

1337
01:13:34,930 --> 01:13:31,790
history and according to our spiritual

1338
01:13:38,830 --> 01:13:34,940
teachings the original leaders of those

1339
01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:38,840
groups were actually have et and have

1340
01:13:45,670 --> 01:13:42,110
humans I mean when I say this to a lot

1341
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:45,680
of people as specialists with all the

1342
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:48,410
alphabet behind their names right they

1343
01:13:55,330 --> 01:13:53,570
kind of they kind of laugh and but but

1344
01:13:58,780 --> 01:13:55,340
this is what we believe in

1345
01:14:02,200 --> 01:13:58,790
it's becoming more true than ever every

1346
01:14:04,629 --> 01:14:02,210
every year so to speak because because

1347
01:14:07,839 --> 01:14:04,639
they don't have an answer even though

1348
01:14:10,450 --> 01:14:07,849
they can theorize many different

1349
01:14:14,410 --> 01:14:10,460
concepts but nobody really knows I

1350
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:14,420
hadn't I had a real good knock-down

1351
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:17,650
drag-out with a so called pyramid expert

1352
01:14:24,370 --> 01:14:20,690
for five days on a trip with him I asked

1353
01:14:27,310 --> 01:14:24,380
him I said who who made the pyramids and

1354
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:27,320
he could not tell me who made them so

1355
01:14:33,580 --> 01:14:31,310
this is a this is if you if you had some

1356
01:14:35,410 --> 01:14:33,590
background on that write books about it

1357
01:14:38,109 --> 01:14:35,420
at least you'll have a theory about it

1358
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:38,119
but this individual did not have a

1359
01:14:44,950 --> 01:14:43,010
theory now when I whether it's Joshua

1360
01:14:46,899 --> 01:14:44,960
Tree or we're talking about you know

1361
01:14:49,390 --> 01:14:46,909
eastern Tennessee in the Brown Mountain

1362
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:49,400
lights or the Yakima reservation up

1363
01:14:57,609 --> 01:14:53,530
amount Adams or Mount Shasta Sedona

1364
01:15:01,089 --> 01:14:57,619
Chaco Canyon these spots the four

1365
01:15:04,450 --> 01:15:01,099
corners the Grand Canyon you go out

1366
01:15:06,490 --> 01:15:04,460
there and you see these orbs either

1367
01:15:09,250 --> 01:15:06,500
forming on the ground and flying up to

1368
01:15:13,060 --> 01:15:09,260
the Stars or shooting across the ground

1369
01:15:16,959 --> 01:15:13,070
or or appearing in front of you what is

1370
01:15:19,419 --> 01:15:16,969
it that we are is that et are those

1371
01:15:22,270 --> 01:15:19,429
spirits or what is it some kind of

1372
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:22,280
energy what what do you think we are

1373
01:15:26,260 --> 01:15:24,530
witnessing when we see that I think it's

1374
01:15:28,750 --> 01:15:26,270
et you know I just jump on that

1375
01:15:30,609 --> 01:15:28,760
bandwagon but what is it that we're

1376
01:15:35,589 --> 01:15:30,619
seeing when we when we observe these

1377
01:15:39,310 --> 01:15:35,599
giant orbs flying around well the what

1378
01:15:42,839 --> 01:15:39,320
we call in American I mean the Zulu

1379
01:15:47,109 --> 01:15:42,849
people and I think I put this on my

1380
01:15:49,149 --> 01:15:47,119
presentation last week all those things

1381
01:15:52,270 --> 01:15:49,159
that you see whether it looks like a

1382
01:15:56,339 --> 01:15:52,280
flying saucer looks like an orb or it

1383
01:15:59,490 --> 01:15:56,349
looks like a looks like big food or even

1384
01:16:02,850 --> 01:15:59,500
something that it looks like an ancient

1385
01:16:06,250 --> 01:16:02,860
dinosaur looking character or thing

1386
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:06,260
these are called what we call law people

1387
01:16:11,140 --> 01:16:08,010
the zoo

1388
01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:11,150
turn for this copy Naju which means

1389
01:16:19,970 --> 01:16:16,110
literally meaning wrong versus like we

1390
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:19,980
are like the Zuni Inga's are not wrong

1391
01:16:25,070 --> 01:16:21,600
people but I guess we know we're we're

1392
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:25,080
kind of a cooked people watching right

1393
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:26,370
right right right right

1394
01:16:33,490 --> 01:16:30,570
we're actually physical right right and

1395
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:33,500
those people are many many dimensions

1396
01:16:40,010 --> 01:16:36,930
they're there they can actually go

1397
01:16:43,700 --> 01:16:40,020
through walls as a lot of people have

1398
01:16:47,470 --> 01:16:43,710
had witness or experience they can go

1399
01:16:53,210 --> 01:16:47,480
through all and then lately I have I

1400
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:53,220
have a friend in in Sedona that has he's

1401
01:16:58,880 --> 01:16:56,010
written many books on on UFOs and

1402
01:17:01,730 --> 01:16:58,890
different anomalies around Sedona

1403
01:17:04,670 --> 01:17:01,740
he recently about six months ago he

1404
01:17:07,850 --> 01:17:04,680
called me up and he told me that he is

1405
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:07,860
really getting very fancy he said that

1406
01:17:15,050 --> 01:17:11,130
they come in and when when he was

1407
01:17:19,460 --> 01:17:15,060
looking at a flying saucer type vehicle

1408
01:17:24,110 --> 01:17:19,470
and then immediately turned into a like

1409
01:17:26,390 --> 01:17:24,120
a fixed-wing propeller craft oh really

1410
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:26,400
I know that that was no lie to me right

1411
01:17:35,060 --> 01:17:33,650
right right yeah they're doing that to

1412
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:35,070
flush

1413
01:17:44,450 --> 01:17:38,970
is that why so what are they doing that

1414
01:17:47,900 --> 01:17:44,460
to fool us they're doing that is because

1415
01:17:51,110 --> 01:17:47,910
now that we've got the technology you

1416
01:17:55,370 --> 01:17:51,120
know especially with these digital

1417
01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:55,380
digital cameras mm-hmm and I have I have

1418
01:18:01,190 --> 01:17:59,520
also experienced it I usually go out one

1419
01:18:04,970 --> 01:18:01,200
to know one and I got a digital camera

1420
01:18:07,130 --> 01:18:04,980
and you just put it on flash and it's a

1421
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:07,140
very dark night and you just really just

1422
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:09,090
start snapping pictures all around you

1423
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:12,690
and we when you come when you look at it

1424
01:18:19,820 --> 01:18:15,840
and you'll be literally hundreds of

1425
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:19,830
works we even took one about three years

1426
01:18:24,590 --> 01:18:21,810
ago

1427
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:24,600
physical Cottonwood Arizona on top of a

1428
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:27,930
hill and in one of those orbs was

1429
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:33,120
actually a EP looking thing inside the

1430
01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:35,850
orc or the bubble and it was bigger than

1431
01:18:41,480 --> 01:18:38,400
the ones that were surrounding it and

1432
01:18:44,410 --> 01:18:41,490
other thing that we or at least I've

1433
01:18:48,890 --> 01:18:44,420
experienced is that when you go to these

1434
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:48,900
sacred sites especially those that are

1435
01:18:56,780 --> 01:18:53,010
not on a map like you know run by the

1436
01:18:59,240 --> 01:18:56,790
Park Service or the government state

1437
01:19:02,690 --> 01:18:59,250
government you can actually see those

1438
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:02,700
things and they're they're huge and now

1439
01:19:07,610 --> 01:19:05,130
that they is there's always been around

1440
01:19:10,580 --> 01:19:07,620
and that's what you see even during the

1441
01:19:13,010 --> 01:19:10,590
daytime you can see an order in the

1442
01:19:15,260 --> 01:19:13,020
daytime and there's one thing that's

1443
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:15,270
kind of kind of funny

1444
01:19:21,370 --> 01:19:18,210
it's like UFOs when I used to take oh

1445
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:21,380
maybe 34 years ago back in the 60s I

1446
01:19:27,230 --> 01:19:24,080
would take people out on my reservation

1447
01:19:31,190 --> 01:19:27,240
and go out there and let's go look at

1448
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:31,200
the UFOs Oh that'd be about six or seven

1449
01:19:37,790 --> 01:19:35,090
guys go out there with me and maybe

1450
01:19:42,380 --> 01:19:37,800
myself and one other person would

1451
01:19:44,750 --> 01:19:42,390
actually see a UFO others would not even

1452
01:19:46,970 --> 01:19:44,760
see it even if we even if we came to

1453
01:19:48,980 --> 01:19:46,980
their face they couldn't even see it and

1454
01:19:52,490 --> 01:19:48,990
I was wondering why but I think the

1455
01:19:55,820 --> 01:19:52,500
reason is that I think that there's some

1456
01:19:58,130 --> 01:19:55,830
type of a connection either with because

1457
01:20:00,050 --> 01:19:58,140
of their beliefs or some type of their

1458
01:20:04,730 --> 01:20:00,060
structure that they have within their

1459
01:20:08,810 --> 01:20:04,740
body or DNA or whatever but it's it's

1460
01:20:12,020 --> 01:20:08,820
becoming very prevalent now and I've

1461
01:20:14,180 --> 01:20:12,030
always said back in 1970 I said there

1462
01:20:17,390 --> 01:20:14,190
will be more UFOs gonna be coming around

1463
01:20:22,940 --> 01:20:17,400
and that's when I still were the only

1464
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:22,950
reservation and it's happening I I told

1465
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:24,930
the story a lot you I don't think I've

1466
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:27,450
told you about it but so I'm going to

1467
01:20:35,090 --> 01:20:31,770
repeat it now up at Mount Adams last

1468
01:20:35,540 --> 01:20:35,100
month I saw the we all saw there's a

1469
01:20:40,250 --> 01:20:35,550
hundred

1470
01:20:43,550 --> 01:20:40,260
150 of us I saw this this gray orb from

1471
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:43,560
across the the field there so it was

1472
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:48,090
about a quarter-mile away and it it was

1473
01:20:53,210 --> 01:20:50,370
a gray orb it was flat

1474
01:20:55,610 --> 01:20:53,220
Clifford it was flat it wasn't a sphere

1475
01:20:59,840 --> 01:20:55,620
it was flat and it was like 50 feet

1476
01:21:02,120 --> 01:20:59,850
across and it lasted for about five

1477
01:21:05,630 --> 01:21:02,130
seconds but this was without a camera

1478
01:21:09,230 --> 01:21:05,640
this was with my eyeballs and then it

1479
01:21:10,610 --> 01:21:09,240
faded away and everybody started talking

1480
01:21:12,830 --> 01:21:10,620
about it and when they started talking

1481
01:21:15,650 --> 01:21:12,840
about it that's when I realized that I

1482
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:15,660
wasn't imagining this you know and and

1483
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:18,810
it was very very impressive but it also

1484
01:21:26,980 --> 01:21:22,080
kind of freaked me out in that it proved

1485
01:21:29,930 --> 01:21:26,990
to me that orbs are real this is not

1486
01:21:33,050 --> 01:21:29,940
tinfoil hat stuff this is not digital

1487
01:21:35,630 --> 01:21:33,060
camera fake enos or whatever dust

1488
01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:35,640
particles or insects this was with my

1489
01:21:43,970 --> 01:21:41,280
naked eye and it was giant what what is

1490
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:43,980
going on with that again is it something

1491
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:49,110
spiritual is it et is it a being why

1492
01:21:56,060 --> 01:21:50,730
would something appear in front of a

1493
01:22:00,890 --> 01:21:56,070
group like that and then fade away it's

1494
01:22:04,190 --> 01:22:00,900
always been there spiritual beings ETS

1495
01:22:08,540 --> 01:22:04,200
are also spiritual now one of the things

1496
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:08,550
that when when we were talking about the

1497
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:11,970
connection between the spiritual beings

1498
01:22:17,660 --> 01:22:14,250
and the Kachinas and all that if you

1499
01:22:21,860 --> 01:22:17,670
look at the YouTube on I think it was

1500
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:21,870
taken in January of this year and I saw

1501
01:22:28,990 --> 01:22:24,570
that on YouTube it's a person by the

1502
01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:29,000
name of Robert Bingham VI ng h am right

1503
01:22:39,590 --> 01:22:34,800
and he is the title of his video is

1504
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:39,600
Android and it's a it's like a Kachina

1505
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:42,690
about the size of a helicopter or so he

1506
01:22:48,650 --> 01:22:46,170
said but believe that's off the coast or

1507
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:48,660
somewhere in that either in California

1508
01:22:51,260 --> 01:22:49,290
or somewhere

1509
01:22:54,670 --> 01:22:51,270
he's taking a picture of this it's about

1510
01:22:58,910 --> 01:22:54,680
maybe five or six minutes long and it's

1511
01:23:01,550 --> 01:22:58,920
it it's exactly the same makeup of the

1512
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:01,560
Kachina that comes to Hopi that time of

1513
01:23:08,690 --> 01:23:05,370
the year and on those he's got one or I

1514
01:23:11,630 --> 01:23:08,700
think on like on a knee and the other

1515
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:11,640
one is like maybe on part of his body

1516
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:15,410
and then his head actually turns around

1517
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:20,370
360 degrees and it's the same Kachina

1518
01:23:26,420 --> 01:23:24,330
that comes to Hopi during the right

1519
01:23:30,830 --> 01:23:26,430
after the winter solstice right before

1520
01:23:33,740 --> 01:23:30,840
the equinox and so there are things like

1521
01:23:36,710 --> 01:23:33,750
that top there and a lot of that

1522
01:23:39,710 --> 01:23:36,720
information has been kept secret by many

1523
01:23:41,780 --> 01:23:39,720
many organizations but people like us

1524
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:41,790
that live out there on isolated

1525
01:23:47,780 --> 01:23:44,970
reservations we see them all the time

1526
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:47,790
and when we're doing our ceremonies or

1527
01:23:53,750 --> 01:23:50,730
rituals at certain times of the year

1528
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:53,760
they actually come through the villages

1529
01:23:59,930 --> 01:23:58,080
and it's a common thing that we know

1530
01:24:04,280 --> 01:23:59,940
about but we don't talk about it because

1531
01:24:06,530 --> 01:24:04,290
it is so common do you know it do you

1532
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:06,540
call them or do they just come and hang

1533
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:12,690
out we actually pray for them and we

1534
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:14,730
actually they're the one that sets the

1535
01:24:24,860 --> 01:24:18,930
schedules time time immemorial you know

1536
01:24:33,730 --> 01:24:24,870
it's our our clock is the moon V and and

1537
01:24:39,110 --> 01:24:33,740
all the spiritual clock is the moon yes

1538
01:24:46,910 --> 01:24:39,120
then you look at it everything is based

1539
01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:46,920
upon the the the phases of the Moon in

1540
01:24:51,590 --> 01:24:49,440
that's a calendar all our rituals are

1541
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:51,600
based upon that in that's also a prayer

1542
01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:55,290
system is based upon that and then after

1543
01:25:02,330 --> 01:24:58,050
the summer for example before the summer

1544
01:25:03,110 --> 01:25:02,340
equinox they talk they start doing

1545
01:25:06,310 --> 01:25:03,120
things

1546
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:06,320
on the six days after the new moon to

1547
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:10,320
speed up the speed up the planting and

1548
01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:15,050
the season in Acula summer solstice II

1549
01:25:22,610 --> 01:25:18,960
then they actually go go at the full

1550
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:22,620
moon stage to extend the summer for

1551
01:25:28,220 --> 01:25:25,170
planting I mean you know for harvesting

1552
01:25:30,770 --> 01:25:28,230
purposes and also it's all our religion

1553
01:25:34,450 --> 01:25:30,780
in all our purses from is based upon the

1554
01:25:38,180 --> 01:25:34,460
moon and it starts out like that on all

1555
01:25:40,190 --> 01:25:38,190
religious activities where you have to

1556
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:40,200
really understand the system to know

1557
01:25:45,500 --> 01:25:42,930
what we're talking about now we're gonna

1558
01:25:48,950 --> 01:25:45,510
take a break right here Clifford and

1559
01:25:53,630 --> 01:25:48,960
when we come back I do want to start to

1560
01:25:57,500 --> 01:25:53,640
talk about these una prophecies and not

1561
01:26:00,470 --> 01:25:57,510
only the prophecies themselves but how

1562
01:26:02,270 --> 01:26:00,480
they they may include eventual

1563
01:26:03,790 --> 01:26:02,280
disclosure are you ready for that we'll

1564
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:03,800
do that right after the break

1565
01:26:08,780 --> 01:26:07,050
okay our guest tonight the one and only

1566
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:08,790
clifford mahooty I don't know why it's

1567
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:11,730
taking so long to have Clifford on the

1568
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:14,730
show he's a great friend and I will say

1569
01:26:20,180 --> 01:26:18,480
this when he speaks out at conferences

1570
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:20,190
or when he walks into a room

1571
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:23,010
nothing lights up like when clifford

1572
01:26:27,050 --> 01:26:25,650
mahooty is there as fade to black our

1573
01:26:28,340 --> 01:26:27,060
marrows Jimmy Church more with Clifford

1574
01:26:30,170 --> 01:26:28,350
right after this short break

1575
01:26:37,660 --> 01:26:30,180
stay with us

1576
01:26:43,900 --> 01:26:40,840
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

1577
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:43,910
you're listening to faint and black

1578
01:26:47,690 --> 01:26:46,410
always on the edge of the hottest

1579
01:26:50,990 --> 01:26:47,700
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1580
01:27:09,650 --> 01:26:51,000
Jimmy church with fade to black stay GRA

1581
01:27:12,590 --> 01:27:09,660
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welcome back fade to black I'm your host

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Jimmy Church very special guest tonight

1651
01:31:02,410 --> 01:31:00,500
is with us clifford mahooty I'll say it

1652
01:31:08,260 --> 01:31:02,420
again I don't know why it's taken so

1653
01:31:10,270 --> 01:31:08,270
long man I will always respect those had

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01:31:13,060 --> 01:31:10,280
hurt not only smarter than me

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01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:13,070
but that are funnier than me and

1656
01:31:18,370 --> 01:31:16,730
Clifford is both Clifford again welcome

1657
01:31:20,260 --> 01:31:18,380
to the show man and and I don't know why

1658
01:31:22,180 --> 01:31:20,270
it's taken so long you and I when we

1659
01:31:23,590 --> 01:31:22,190
hang out at conferences we always have

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01:31:24,820 --> 01:31:23,600
these great conversations and we're

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hanging out with these wonderful

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beautiful people and and we always you

1663
01:31:31,630 --> 01:31:30,080
know okay well let's do it soon and I

1664
01:31:34,270 --> 01:31:31,640
don't know why it's taken so many years

1665
01:31:36,310 --> 01:31:34,280
but let's don't let so make it this long

1666
01:31:39,700 --> 01:31:36,320
next time around okay make me that

1667
01:31:44,940 --> 01:31:39,710
promise okay well I guess we were on

1668
01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:44,950
time yes Indian time right right now

1669
01:31:55,180 --> 01:31:49,450
let's talk about the prophecies because

1670
01:31:57,580 --> 01:31:55,190
the the our community talks about the

1671
01:31:59,680 --> 01:31:57,590
prophecies from the Zuni but I think a

1672
01:32:01,600 --> 01:31:59,690
lot of it is misinterpreted number one

1673
01:32:03,190 --> 01:32:01,610
number two a lot of people that talk

1674
01:32:04,660 --> 01:32:03,200
about it don't have a clue what they're

1675
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:04,670
talking about but they're trying to be

1676
01:32:08,950 --> 01:32:06,410
the smart person in the room and they

1677
01:32:10,390 --> 01:32:08,960
clearly are not and they probably

1678
01:32:13,420 --> 01:32:10,400
haven't sat through one of your

1679
01:32:14,860 --> 01:32:13,430
presentations or read about it and they

1680
01:32:17,500 --> 01:32:14,870
just you know what I mean they're just

1681
01:32:20,350 --> 01:32:17,510
misinformed and I know you're gonna

1682
01:32:23,410 --> 01:32:20,360
agree with that so let me let me start

1683
01:32:29,140 --> 01:32:23,420
here what are the Zuni prophecies and

1684
01:32:32,070 --> 01:32:29,150
how are they handed down offices are I

1685
01:32:36,820 --> 01:32:32,080
guess you know way truths that were

1686
01:32:39,460 --> 01:32:36,830
forewarned by again our people that

1687
01:32:41,410 --> 01:32:39,470
created our system which in this case

1688
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:41,420
would be what I call it all people or

1689
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:45,530
the gods and also the demigods of the

1690
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:49,970
Creator and many prophecies were

1691
01:32:56,580 --> 01:32:53,450
expressed by Zuni and Hopi that are

1692
01:33:00,970 --> 01:32:56,590
still in existence to this day but it is

1693
01:33:04,090 --> 01:33:00,980
when I was a young boy and even when my

1694
01:33:06,370 --> 01:33:04,100
parents were very young they would talk

1695
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:06,380
to them about this prophecy

1696
01:33:13,780 --> 01:33:09,890
and they it was not a scare tactic it's

1697
01:33:19,090 --> 01:33:13,790
not a fear or or anything he was just a

1698
01:33:22,570 --> 01:33:19,100
ways that we were taught in to look at

1699
01:33:26,370 --> 01:33:22,580
the future and also the keep in mind at

1700
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:26,380
all kinds of how to tear out your life

1701
01:33:32,950 --> 01:33:30,650
so but most of the most of the

1702
01:33:36,580 --> 01:33:32,960
prophecies have been handed down for

1703
01:33:39,580 --> 01:33:36,590
centuries if not thousands of years and

1704
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:39,590
so basically what it is it's a guiding

1705
01:33:45,729 --> 01:33:43,250
force or guided guidelines to take care

1706
01:33:47,380 --> 01:33:45,739
of two things first of all it's Mother

1707
01:33:50,620 --> 01:33:47,390
Earth and of course all the living

1708
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:50,630
things when I mean living things I mean

1709
01:33:55,169 --> 01:33:53,330
not only we talk about three people we

1710
01:33:57,880 --> 01:33:55,179
talk about water people we talk about

1711
01:34:01,060 --> 01:33:57,890
stone people and all that and it's it's

1712
01:34:05,020 --> 01:34:01,070
a respectful way of keeping everything

1713
01:34:08,470 --> 01:34:05,030
in balance so that our if we don't do

1714
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:08,480
certain things this will happen type

1715
01:34:19,500 --> 01:34:12,770
thing it's a mathematical function type

1716
01:34:25,330 --> 01:34:22,209
started really coming into play right

1717
01:34:28,570 --> 01:34:25,340
after World War two because of the

1718
01:34:32,620 --> 01:34:28,580
highest activities of what we call our

1719
01:34:34,750 --> 01:34:32,630
our guardians and our keepers painting

1720
01:34:39,459 --> 01:34:34,760
the white man well they call them UFOs

1721
01:34:42,189 --> 01:34:39,469
or us old and orcs became intensified

1722
01:34:46,330 --> 01:34:42,199
right after during and after World War

1723
01:34:49,630 --> 01:34:46,340
two remember a lot of things that were

1724
01:34:52,990 --> 01:34:49,640
connected with technology were probably

1725
01:34:56,890 --> 01:34:53,000
not at that time of advanced age for

1726
01:34:59,560 --> 01:34:56,900
example the Foo Fighter theory and all

1727
01:35:02,320 --> 01:34:59,570
that and but there were many

1728
01:35:06,820 --> 01:35:02,330
disturbances that were created because

1729
01:35:11,290 --> 01:35:06,830
of the first atomic explosion in New

1730
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:11,300
Mexico a Trinity site back in 1945 I

1731
01:35:17,620 --> 01:35:14,570
believe it was and the grandfather's

1732
01:35:19,669 --> 01:35:17,630
would say at that time master is still

1733
01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:19,679
only a year old at belief

1734
01:35:24,590 --> 01:35:22,560
and they would say that okay now it's

1735
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:24,600
the beginning of what they have been

1736
01:35:30,290 --> 01:35:27,090
what the grandpa what the what the

1737
01:35:35,780 --> 01:35:30,300
spirit people had told us and so they

1738
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:35,790
they talked about the rock roof and we

1739
01:35:42,050 --> 01:35:38,730
have always been taught that we live in

1740
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:42,060
within a sphere and they come and check

1741
01:35:49,270 --> 01:35:45,570
us on the people the indigenous tribes

1742
01:35:53,450 --> 01:35:49,280
to see how they're carrying on the the

1743
01:35:57,410 --> 01:35:53,460
instructions given them by the sky

1744
01:35:59,030 --> 01:35:57,420
people or star people or or what we call

1745
01:36:02,240 --> 01:35:59,040
the wrong people which are the gods

1746
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:02,250
demagogues and so it started happening

1747
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:04,080
and then you can start getting

1748
01:36:08,630 --> 01:36:06,330
intensified because at that time we

1749
01:36:12,979 --> 01:36:08,640
didn't have any white white men

1750
01:36:16,130 --> 01:36:12,989
influence they came and they they

1751
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:16,140
started churches but most Indian tribes

1752
01:36:21,970 --> 01:36:18,449
fought them but actually they were taken

1753
01:36:25,430 --> 01:36:21,980
over so the prophecies became

1754
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:25,440
intensified in the teachings at least in

1755
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:29,010
my generation so we had keywords in

1756
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:31,250
those days and then before we start any

1757
01:36:37,550 --> 01:36:34,250
songs or activities they will talk about

1758
01:36:40,669 --> 01:36:37,560
the prophecies that were handed down and

1759
01:36:43,820 --> 01:36:40,679
it was it's I think will I think they

1760
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:43,830
were the first homeschoolers because we

1761
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:46,890
got our education in every facet of the

1762
01:36:52,340 --> 01:36:49,770
pueblos life you get it at home and you

1763
01:36:54,890 --> 01:36:52,350
getting in the key word and the advance

1764
01:36:59,860 --> 01:36:54,900
work done by the medicine man the wisdom

1765
01:37:03,110 --> 01:36:59,870
keepers and so on but it was in my

1766
01:37:05,570 --> 01:37:03,120
generation that prior to my generation

1767
01:37:10,490 --> 01:37:05,580
they had talked about dark water causing

1768
01:37:12,350 --> 01:37:10,500
craziness they they thought he was from

1769
01:37:14,180 --> 01:37:12,360
the Spanish first brought coffee and

1770
01:37:15,530 --> 01:37:14,190
chocolate they thought he was and so

1771
01:37:18,890 --> 01:37:15,540
they kind of forgot about it

1772
01:37:20,810 --> 01:37:18,900
right but later on the liquor was dark

1773
01:37:23,959 --> 01:37:20,820
and that's what caused praising is and

1774
01:37:26,209 --> 01:37:23,969
screening of families so there's a lot

1775
01:37:28,810 --> 01:37:26,219
of whole bunch of prophecies they talked

1776
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:28,820
about the whole in putting a hole in the

1777
01:37:37,669 --> 01:37:33,530
sky and this is when they had the the

1778
01:37:42,620 --> 01:37:37,679
the space program back in about the late

1779
01:37:44,959 --> 01:37:42,630
50s and early 60s and that we thought

1780
01:37:48,260 --> 01:37:44,969
they talked about also about why would

1781
01:37:53,750 --> 01:37:48,270
what would they go to the moon when all

1782
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:53,760
our our people or at least our gods or

1783
01:38:00,500 --> 01:37:56,730
demigods have their places up there and

1784
01:38:04,700 --> 01:38:00,510
it's also sacred sacred land or sacred

1785
01:38:08,470 --> 01:38:04,710
places just like our sacred Springs and

1786
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:08,480
our our sacred things on the planet here

1787
01:38:14,950 --> 01:38:12,690
so this was it was weary if you if I had

1788
01:38:17,780 --> 01:38:14,960
never gone to school and understood

1789
01:38:19,970 --> 01:38:17,790
other areas of that I would apply this

1790
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:19,980
said well you know this is what they

1791
01:38:25,970 --> 01:38:22,410
taught me and and you pick it as such

1792
01:38:28,490 --> 01:38:25,980
but having learned all about the the

1793
01:38:32,180 --> 01:38:28,500
science programs and so on it all fits

1794
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:32,190
together and the holding the holding the

1795
01:38:38,540 --> 01:38:35,610
roof became member back in the fifties

1796
01:38:43,610 --> 01:38:38,550
their toes on there that was destroyed

1797
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:43,620
by they blamed their conditioning in the

1798
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:45,330
cars for doing that but it was a

1799
01:38:53,930 --> 01:38:51,810
different one right I that that's a

1800
01:38:57,050 --> 01:38:53,940
pretty fascinating twist on things isn't

1801
01:38:59,959 --> 01:38:57,060
it I mean it's obvious yeah it's obvious

1802
01:39:02,209 --> 01:38:59,969
when you look at it in modern eyes but

1803
01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:02,219
this was we're talking about ancient

1804
01:39:11,660 --> 01:39:04,320
prophecy here foretelling the future

1805
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:11,670
that was spot on the money mm-hmm and it

1806
01:39:16,700 --> 01:39:15,090
says that the way they used to speak was

1807
01:39:19,090 --> 01:39:16,710
very very simple and straightforward

1808
01:39:22,540 --> 01:39:19,100
because this is part of our spiritual

1809
01:39:26,870 --> 01:39:22,550
teachings who we don't call it religious

1810
01:39:30,500 --> 01:39:26,880
because to us religion was an is an

1811
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:30,510
invention by man to control people in

1812
01:39:38,060 --> 01:39:34,610
fear this was spirituality the truth

1813
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:38,070
talked among the indigenous groups as

1814
01:39:44,500 --> 01:39:41,130
something that is what's pulled up or

1815
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:44,510
set up and to be and it was going to be

1816
01:39:51,100 --> 01:39:47,130
we're going to meet that time and they

1817
01:39:53,930 --> 01:39:51,110
also taught us how not to fall into that

1818
01:39:56,919 --> 01:39:53,940
that trap of saying that wow this is

1819
01:40:01,459 --> 01:39:56,929
fake or somebody makes it up but anyway

1820
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:01,469
the hole in the roof according to the

1821
01:40:10,100 --> 01:40:04,770
elders would say will bring disturbances

1822
01:40:15,050 --> 01:40:10,110
to human consciousness and in physical

1823
01:40:16,879 --> 01:40:15,060
bodies and if you look at some of the

1824
01:40:18,709 --> 01:40:16,889
diseases that are in existence today

1825
01:40:20,540 --> 01:40:18,719
they were you know if you look at it

1826
01:40:23,810 --> 01:40:20,550
from the scientific standpoint there's a

1827
01:40:26,570 --> 01:40:23,820
shield up there at that time the

1828
01:40:28,550 --> 01:40:26,580
favorite stuff is the Van Allen belts in

1829
01:40:31,340 --> 01:40:28,560
the the asteroid belts and all that

1830
01:40:33,919 --> 01:40:31,350
different types of layers right up there

1831
01:40:36,770 --> 01:40:33,929
that prevented like ultraviolet rays and

1832
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:36,780
all this other different things that to

1833
01:40:41,450 --> 01:40:40,170
make all this cancer and so they do

1834
01:40:43,490 --> 01:40:41,460
about that but they didn't have a

1835
01:40:48,229 --> 01:40:43,500
scientific terms for it they just knew

1836
01:40:54,919 --> 01:40:48,239
what the symptoms would be now if I was

1837
01:40:57,950 --> 01:40:54,929
to go into a Zuni classroom right on one

1838
01:41:01,399 --> 01:40:57,960
of the tribal lands and I walked in I

1839
01:41:04,430 --> 01:41:01,409
was hanging out with Zuni children and I

1840
01:41:06,950 --> 01:41:04,440
brought up the subject of ET or are we

1841
01:41:08,810 --> 01:41:06,960
alone in the universe they would look at

1842
01:41:15,189 --> 01:41:08,820
me like I was nuts right they were to

1843
01:41:23,450 --> 01:41:18,800
okay here's one thing that I though I'd

1844
01:41:27,169 --> 01:41:23,460
say but and maybe 15 years ago I walked

1845
01:41:31,550 --> 01:41:27,179
into a classroom which was about maybe

1846
01:41:34,610 --> 01:41:31,560
about anywhere maybe about their third

1847
01:41:37,100 --> 01:41:34,620
or fourth grades right and I wanted to

1848
01:41:39,020 --> 01:41:37,110
see if that truth was still being

1849
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:39,030
carried out and one of the things that

1850
01:41:43,970 --> 01:41:41,489
we talked when we were young people

1851
01:41:45,770 --> 01:41:43,980
we're young people when we would go we

1852
01:41:48,290 --> 01:41:45,780
did not we did not even look at

1853
01:41:50,540 --> 01:41:48,300
catchiness when the Kachinas came into

1854
01:41:52,879 --> 01:41:50,550
dance our grandmother's our mothers will

1855
01:41:55,399 --> 01:41:52,889
put a shawl over here so we don't see

1856
01:41:58,430 --> 01:41:55,409
them and one of the instructions in

1857
01:42:00,270 --> 01:41:58,440
those days was that do not look at the

1858
01:42:02,910 --> 01:42:00,280
sky

1859
01:42:04,770 --> 01:42:02,920
I always ask the question well why not

1860
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:04,780
he said because somebody is going to

1861
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:07,330
look down on you and they might come and

1862
01:42:14,310 --> 01:42:10,930
get you okay the duction theory comes

1863
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:14,320
into play right so so I went back to the

1864
01:42:21,690 --> 01:42:18,010
classroom and first of all it's kind of

1865
01:42:22,740 --> 01:42:21,700
funny they they they introduced me with

1866
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:22,750
my first name

1867
01:42:27,810 --> 01:42:26,050
and they kept failing that saying the

1868
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:27,820
kids were saying oh here comes a big red

1869
01:42:31,980 --> 01:42:29,920
dog I didn't know what the heck they

1870
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:31,990
meant but anyway I found out that was

1871
01:42:42,900 --> 01:42:34,570
Clifford was a big red dog anyway the

1872
01:42:46,290 --> 01:42:42,910
first question that's funny

1873
01:42:49,290 --> 01:42:46,300
okay go ahead go ahead good so I have to

1874
01:42:51,480 --> 01:42:49,300
ask the kids and they're real bright

1875
01:42:53,010 --> 01:42:51,490
kids and if I walked in there and of

1876
01:42:58,230 --> 01:42:53,020
course I all of them know that speak

1877
01:43:00,000 --> 01:42:58,240
Zulu and so I asked him in soon is it so

1878
01:43:03,870 --> 01:43:00,010
I was talking along and I told him

1879
01:43:07,220 --> 01:43:03,880
whoever and what I did and I asked I

1880
01:43:09,630 --> 01:43:07,230
asked the kids just just without even

1881
01:43:12,180 --> 01:43:09,640
stopping I asked him all of them and

1882
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:12,190
said you can't look up at the sky at

1883
01:43:18,750 --> 01:43:16,810
night and they said no we can't we're

1884
01:43:22,010 --> 01:43:18,760
not supposed to look at the sky at night

1885
01:43:25,050 --> 01:43:22,020
so the teachers are still in play

1886
01:43:28,350 --> 01:43:25,060
because in the old days when you look up

1887
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:28,360
at the sky there were UFOs or thinking

1888
01:43:33,480 --> 01:43:30,850
that up there that we're not supposed to

1889
01:43:38,210 --> 01:43:33,490
know unless we go through the initiation

1890
01:43:41,970 --> 01:43:38,220
process and learn about the esoteric

1891
01:43:45,030 --> 01:43:41,980
systems that are in play at all in all

1892
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:45,040
levels of spirituality interesting so

1893
01:43:54,350 --> 01:43:48,690
they so they still teach that today

1894
01:44:00,480 --> 01:43:54,360
interesting that blows my mind Clifford

1895
01:44:05,430 --> 01:44:00,490
and Wow I wanted to ask you how is is

1896
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:05,440
the Zuni language still taught as part

1897
01:44:10,750 --> 01:44:08,290
of the curriculum are the Zuni children

1898
01:44:13,300 --> 01:44:10,760
still learning the Zuni language

1899
01:44:13,750 --> 01:44:13,310
well we learned it from the day we were

1900
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:13,760
born

1901
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:18,410
right and but what they tried to do or I

1902
01:44:25,030 --> 01:44:22,370
guess under I think is under one of the

1903
01:44:26,890 --> 01:44:25,040
presidents maybe it was Reagan when when

1904
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:26,900
they had this big kick about bilingual

1905
01:44:32,710 --> 01:44:30,290
education and you know they were going

1906
01:44:36,580 --> 01:44:32,720
to and that's where Ebonics came about

1907
01:44:39,850 --> 01:44:36,590
and other languages nobody understands

1908
01:44:41,050 --> 01:44:39,860
well the we got our own money for that

1909
01:44:44,430 --> 01:44:41,060
our educate we've got our own

1910
01:44:47,260 --> 01:44:44,440
educational system by the way and so

1911
01:44:51,340 --> 01:44:47,270
they incorporated that and they

1912
01:44:55,390 --> 01:44:51,350
reinforced for the religious social

1913
01:44:57,580 --> 01:44:55,400
dances being used in this approach so

1914
01:45:00,490 --> 01:44:57,590
all the Indian kids are taught Zuni the

1915
01:45:03,100 --> 01:45:00,500
culture the customs and they also

1916
01:45:06,490 --> 01:45:03,110
learned the others

1917
01:45:08,740 --> 01:45:06,500
advanced spirituality by their by their

1918
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:08,750
grandfather I mean they're their fathers

1919
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:11,810
their grandfathers and all the Elvis

1920
01:45:19,300 --> 01:45:15,250
because all the kids are very versed in

1921
01:45:22,420 --> 01:45:19,310
enduring the prayers that I do it every

1922
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:22,430
every meeting and they're you know some

1923
01:45:26,910 --> 01:45:24,410
of those kids are only in their teens

1924
01:45:31,090 --> 01:45:26,920
but they're whole very high positions

1925
01:45:37,450 --> 01:45:31,100
priesthood Petrino orders keyboard is

1926
01:45:39,610 --> 01:45:37,460
medicine man that is so weird that it's

1927
01:45:42,130 --> 01:45:39,620
something that's missing in in most

1928
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:42,140
cultures around the world and I respect

1929
01:45:46,690 --> 01:45:45,170
that so much and and with that I wanted

1930
01:45:52,060 --> 01:45:46,700
to ask you this Clifford when it comes

1931
01:45:54,540 --> 01:45:52,070
to the prophecies how this was an oral

1932
01:45:57,340 --> 01:45:54,550
tradition that is handed down generation

1933
01:46:00,130 --> 01:45:57,350
after generation after generation after

1934
01:46:03,190 --> 01:46:00,140
generation how far back do the

1935
01:46:06,850 --> 01:46:03,200
prophecies go do you have any idea how

1936
01:46:10,090 --> 01:46:06,860
old they actually are oh well this is

1937
01:46:13,470 --> 01:46:10,100
this is whether when the zuni's were

1938
01:46:17,890 --> 01:46:13,480
first made functional if you look if you

1939
01:46:20,650 --> 01:46:17,900
look at the story of the end of the last

1940
01:46:21,070 --> 01:46:20,660
world which was the third world that's

1941
01:46:24,340 --> 01:46:21,080
right

1942
01:46:24,700 --> 01:46:24,350
who's not destroyed there according to

1943
01:46:28,150 --> 01:46:24,710
the way

1944
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:28,160
man there has been 13 times that the

1945
01:46:36,070 --> 01:46:32,090
earth has reversed its polarity in the

1946
01:46:40,030 --> 01:46:36,080
billion of the years and the the Zuni

1947
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:40,040
people know that uh at least in in at

1948
01:46:45,459 --> 01:46:42,770
least my teachings up to this point the

1949
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:45,469
world has slipped over on its axis even

1950
01:46:50,830 --> 01:46:49,010
in our own history oral history that's

1951
01:46:54,180 --> 01:46:50,840
when they were that's why they had to

1952
01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:54,190
find refuge in the Grand Canyon and

1953
01:46:59,200 --> 01:46:56,810
that's that's where the end people and

1954
01:47:02,440 --> 01:46:59,210
they in some insectoid people come into

1955
01:47:04,630 --> 01:47:02,450
play no I want to let's talk about that

1956
01:47:06,130 --> 01:47:04,640
I need to step in here because we only

1957
01:47:09,490 --> 01:47:06,140
have about 10 minutes to the next break

1958
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:09,500
the and people and the way that they are

1959
01:47:15,610 --> 01:47:12,770
depicted and the Inner Earth and and

1960
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:15,620
what is going on below ground is

1961
01:47:20,709 --> 01:47:18,170
something that was very deliberately

1962
01:47:27,910 --> 01:47:20,719
depicted in those petrol graphs and and

1963
01:47:29,830 --> 01:47:27,920
the illustrations it can't be wrong they

1964
01:47:32,470 --> 01:47:29,840
were seeing something the and people

1965
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:32,480
have a very distinct look to them and

1966
01:47:40,090 --> 01:47:37,010
it's not a mistake is it you know all

1967
01:47:43,690 --> 01:47:40,100
those petroglyphs are not cartoons not

1968
01:47:47,170 --> 01:47:43,700
graffiti they're the history and those

1969
01:47:52,150 --> 01:47:47,180
are our records that will be passed on

1970
01:47:54,459 --> 01:47:52,160
to generations there are many many if

1971
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:54,469
they're very vague if you're not

1972
01:48:00,150 --> 01:47:57,290
familiar with the history because they a

1973
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:00,160
mark on the wall in this case a

1974
01:48:06,310 --> 01:48:03,290
attachable if you have to know your own

1975
01:48:09,340 --> 01:48:06,320
language and your own history in order

1976
01:48:12,550 --> 01:48:09,350
to interpret that even I have a hard

1977
01:48:15,010 --> 01:48:12,560
time because it includes a lot of

1978
01:48:20,620 --> 01:48:15,020
different things for example on the Crab

1979
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:20,630
Nebula which Paul is father I think it's

1980
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:25,370
in 56 ad if I'm not mistaken they're

1981
01:48:34,150 --> 01:48:27,890
spectra great so that all around the

1982
01:48:38,140 --> 01:48:34,160
southwest and also some people say in

1983
01:48:40,300 --> 01:48:38,150
one of my slides there in that can

1984
01:48:44,050 --> 01:48:40,310
where they meet the clients for the Zuni

1985
01:48:48,970 --> 01:48:44,060
people there's actually a flying saucer

1986
01:48:50,649 --> 01:48:48,980
with a grounding and my friend says that

1987
01:48:54,970 --> 01:48:50,659
no no no that's had a flying saucer

1988
01:48:58,360 --> 01:48:54,980
that's the eruption that that flagstaff

1989
01:49:02,500 --> 01:48:58,370
arizona those Peaks I disagree with him

1990
01:49:05,350 --> 01:49:02,510
because over history has that in our in

1991
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:05,360
our rituals and our chance and we also

1992
01:49:12,550 --> 01:49:08,690
know about the Great Flood we also know

1993
01:49:14,500 --> 01:49:12,560
about the fire the volcanoes and the

1994
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:14,510
rumble and this is this is very

1995
01:49:20,860 --> 01:49:15,290
interesting

1996
01:49:24,490 --> 01:49:20,870
the next prophecy is that the rumbling

1997
01:49:26,860 --> 01:49:24,500
will start and the rumble it will never

1998
01:49:30,850 --> 01:49:26,870
quit and they won't know where it's

1999
01:49:35,050 --> 01:49:30,860
coming from as a starter remember that

2000
01:49:37,990 --> 01:49:35,060
house hum back in 1978 they had this big

2001
01:49:40,149 --> 01:49:38,000
hum that goes on in Albuquerque around

2002
01:49:43,270 --> 01:49:40,159
New Mexico driving people nuts that's

2003
01:49:46,060 --> 01:49:43,280
right doctor at that time I thought it

2004
01:49:49,810 --> 01:49:46,070
might be that but he was not rumbling it

2005
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:49,820
was a hum and so it it stopped after

2006
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:51,290
about a couple years I was in

2007
01:49:56,470 --> 01:49:53,210
Albuquerque at that time it was very

2008
01:50:01,780 --> 01:49:56,480
disturbing but there are other things

2009
01:50:06,550 --> 01:50:01,790
that are in coming down that is going to

2010
01:50:09,310 --> 01:50:06,560
be everything there's a sequence you

2011
01:50:11,350 --> 01:50:09,320
know the moon landing was a disturbance

2012
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:11,360
to the spiritual being domain and

2013
01:50:17,380 --> 01:50:14,449
spacecraft were observed on all trips

2014
01:50:23,310 --> 01:50:17,390
according to the data now that's out

2015
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:23,320
there and earth people like ours have

2016
01:50:28,270 --> 01:50:26,810
the reason they have a lot of problems

2017
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:28,280
now is because there's a lot of

2018
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:30,890
deviation from the spiritual esoteric

2019
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:35,570
practices and and this is one thing that

2020
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:38,090
we're trying to get back into doing that

2021
01:50:44,860 --> 01:50:41,330
and the reason for that happening is

2022
01:50:47,350 --> 01:50:44,870
because of the substitution or invasion

2023
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:47,360
by other religious group especially the

2024
01:50:51,970 --> 01:50:51,050
Catholic Church and so there it's very

2025
01:50:57,420 --> 01:50:51,980
it

2026
01:51:00,280 --> 01:50:57,430
no open but they'd change to be that the

2027
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:00,290
other tribes have deviated from their

2028
01:51:05,860 --> 01:51:03,050
spiritual teachings primarily for the

2029
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:05,870
reason that they were removed from their

2030
01:51:11,740 --> 01:51:08,810
lands original last if you look at the

2031
01:51:13,750 --> 01:51:11,750
Cherokee Nation there's the land that

2032
01:51:16,210 --> 01:51:13,760
they ended up has absolutely no

2033
01:51:18,729 --> 01:51:16,220
connection to their spirituality you

2034
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:18,739
know moving there from the east coast to

2035
01:51:24,250 --> 01:51:22,010
Oklahoma I mean that's that's just like

2036
01:51:27,700 --> 01:51:24,260
it's a no-man's land

2037
01:51:30,190 --> 01:51:27,710
sort of thing now when we are looking at

2038
01:51:32,020 --> 01:51:30,200
the way the am people are depicted again

2039
01:51:35,110 --> 01:51:32,030
very deliberate that we're seeing they

2040
01:51:37,570 --> 01:51:35,120
were they were illustrating exactly what

2041
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:37,580
was going on for the for the historical

2042
01:51:44,010 --> 01:51:40,330
record and then we look at some of these

2043
01:51:51,370 --> 01:51:44,020
what appeared to me to be helmeted

2044
01:51:55,870 --> 01:51:51,380
attended uniformed nonhumans whatever

2045
01:51:59,020 --> 01:51:55,880
they may be but also again depicted for

2046
01:52:01,660 --> 01:51:59,030
the historical record for us today to

2047
01:52:02,979 --> 01:52:01,670
see when when the critics out there say

2048
01:52:05,410 --> 01:52:02,989
well you know what they're just having

2049
01:52:07,810 --> 01:52:05,420
fun it's their imagination they're on

2050
01:52:09,729 --> 01:52:07,820
they're on some really good drugs they

2051
01:52:13,300 --> 01:52:09,739
were doing you know it's there's all

2052
01:52:17,380 --> 01:52:13,310
these excuses for this way how do you

2053
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:17,390
how do you argue back though the the

2054
01:52:23,530 --> 01:52:20,210
idiocracy that is going on with the with

2055
01:52:24,940 --> 01:52:23,540
that type of criticism well the person

2056
01:52:33,190 --> 01:52:24,950
who asked him is what were you guys

2057
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:33,200
smoking that are critics you know again

2058
01:52:43,300 --> 01:52:39,370
they at least in my research and my

2059
01:52:47,229 --> 01:52:43,310
teachings or at least my readings that

2060
01:52:49,300 --> 01:52:47,239
there is not one individual that can out

2061
01:52:52,300 --> 01:52:49,310
rightly say that this is what they meant

2062
01:52:55,210 --> 01:52:52,310
even the end of themselves we can only

2063
01:52:57,370 --> 01:52:55,220
speculate based upon what we stir we

2064
01:53:02,170 --> 01:52:57,380
have to this day talk about the end

2065
01:53:05,649 --> 01:53:02,180
people we still have the end society for

2066
01:53:09,969 --> 01:53:05,659
example in Zuni and you

2067
01:53:13,569 --> 01:53:09,979
our next disclosures the open man is

2068
01:53:17,969 --> 01:53:13,579
going to the show they the aunt there

2069
01:53:21,909 --> 01:53:17,979
was two two species of at that Hopi the

2070
01:53:24,899 --> 01:53:21,919
species were light-skinned then there

2071
01:53:28,750 --> 01:53:24,909
were only about three or four feet tall

2072
01:53:31,299 --> 01:53:28,760
and they're there in pictures taken by

2073
01:53:33,939 --> 01:53:31,309
the Smithsonian and what's that Curtis

2074
01:53:36,850 --> 01:53:33,949
Curtis guy they used to take pictures of

2075
01:53:39,250 --> 01:53:36,860
Indians and but they could not spot it

2076
01:53:41,469 --> 01:53:39,260
because they have no idea that it's

2077
01:53:44,580 --> 01:53:41,479
writing their face but they don't even

2078
01:53:47,620 --> 01:53:44,590
know what it is we know about that and

2079
01:53:50,229 --> 01:53:47,630
that's going to be our next project and

2080
01:53:53,709 --> 01:53:50,239
the other species that were around

2081
01:53:58,419 --> 01:53:53,719
during that during the fourth I mean the

2082
01:54:01,060 --> 01:53:58,429
third world was the they were they were

2083
01:54:03,489 --> 01:54:01,070
bigger and they were taller and they

2084
01:54:08,109 --> 01:54:03,499
were like about six to eight feet tall

2085
01:54:11,020 --> 01:54:08,119
and this is in the history as as they

2086
01:54:13,109 --> 01:54:11,030
expressed by Malala the guy that was

2087
01:54:17,049 --> 01:54:13,119
from first Mesa yes yes

2088
01:54:17,879 --> 01:54:17,059
and to even further make it more

2089
01:54:20,939 --> 01:54:17,889
interesting

2090
01:54:23,799 --> 01:54:20,949
there has there also what they call

2091
01:54:27,100 --> 01:54:23,809
flying shields that have been kept away

2092
01:54:31,419 --> 01:54:27,110
from the people for many many centuries

2093
01:54:33,609 --> 01:54:31,429
now because they they they live about

2094
01:54:37,569 --> 01:54:33,619
fine saucer or what they call flying

2095
01:54:40,479 --> 01:54:37,579
shields and in Zuni they gave they used

2096
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:40,489
to say that that they used to go by the

2097
01:54:49,659 --> 01:54:45,530
wind and I believe that when you talk

2098
01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:49,669
about esoteric systems when they mean by

2099
01:54:54,699 --> 01:54:52,130
the wind and then my question would was

2100
01:54:58,089 --> 01:54:54,709
that well how could they how could they

2101
01:55:01,330 --> 01:54:58,099
be out in space and still go by the wind

2102
01:55:04,810 --> 01:55:01,340
there is no wind in space and then they

2103
01:55:09,179 --> 01:55:04,820
would tell me where they went by I guess

2104
01:55:13,779 --> 01:55:09,189
the term would be the theory called

2105
01:55:15,879 --> 01:55:13,789
engine type things and then a hoping man

2106
01:55:19,450 --> 01:55:15,889
was going to tell me before he passed

2107
01:55:25,570 --> 01:55:19,460
away about a year ago that they

2108
01:55:28,570 --> 01:55:25,580
the Merkava remember the remember the

2109
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:28,580
quartz crystal that's two pyramids

2110
01:55:36,010 --> 01:55:30,610
locked together that's right

2111
01:55:38,170 --> 01:55:36,020
and that that he told me that he came to

2112
01:55:40,330 --> 01:55:38,180
me one night I mean one day and he said

2113
01:55:43,900 --> 01:55:40,340
that I will tell you about how they used

2114
01:55:45,790 --> 01:55:43,910
to use this for propulsion services and

2115
01:55:49,270 --> 01:55:45,800
then about a month later he passed away

2116
01:55:52,330 --> 01:55:49,280
and but I had an idea that he was going

2117
01:55:55,900 --> 01:55:52,340
to tell me about that's where that blue

2118
01:55:58,930 --> 01:55:55,910
star ruler comes into play where they

2119
01:56:01,990 --> 01:55:58,940
advanced technology that the hope is

2120
01:56:04,660 --> 01:56:02,000
doable and also in other tribes that

2121
01:56:06,610 --> 01:56:04,670
they know about it but they they won't

2122
01:56:08,340 --> 01:56:06,620
talk about it anymore because they're

2123
01:56:11,020 --> 01:56:08,350
under scrutiny

2124
01:56:13,330 --> 01:56:11,030
along what they talk about especially

2125
01:56:16,630 --> 01:56:13,340
those people are on Albuquerque well

2126
01:56:18,910 --> 01:56:16,640
this blows we have to take a break right

2127
01:56:23,020 --> 01:56:18,920
here Clifford but you know what blows my

2128
01:56:27,580 --> 01:56:23,030
mind about what you just said maybe they

2129
01:56:30,790 --> 01:56:27,590
were referencing solar wind right now

2130
01:56:33,100 --> 01:56:30,800
think about that it's probably that

2131
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:33,110
because I did not I was very young at

2132
01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:35,930
that time well you're standing you're

2133
01:56:40,990 --> 01:56:38,690
still very young and you look great but

2134
01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:41,000
that doesn't change the fact that they

2135
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:42,800
might have been talking about solar wind

2136
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:45,890
and and that technology yeah yeah

2137
01:56:50,170 --> 01:56:48,170
fascinating our guest tonight clifford

2138
01:56:51,610 --> 01:56:50,180
mahooty we're talking about the Zuni

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prophecies and we're talking about the

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history of Native Americans and North

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Wow absolutely fascinating conversation

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tonight with a clifford mahooty our

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guest and i expected this but again i

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just want to thank him in advance for

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what when i was hoping for which was an

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education tonight I'm watching Twitter

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my email is full

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everybody thankful for tonight and I

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knew that you guys would all appreciate

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it so Clifford I got to tell you man

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you're lighting up Twitter like I

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haven't seen lit up in a long time you

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gotta love can you feel the love can you

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feel the love Clifford yes that is my

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message I'm merely a messenger messenger

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I wanted to I wanted to ask you though I

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want to go back to a point that you made

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earlier before we move on with the

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prophecies and in that all the other

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religions in the world were all based on

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controlling the the population and fear

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and it is amazing to me that most

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religions are based on you know there is

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a God and if you don't do what he says

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you will be sent to a place where you

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will be thrown into fire and you will

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burn and be in pain for the rest of

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eternity but he loves you right it's

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just like wait a minute here and and for

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the Zuni and other other tribes across

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that it is not based on that is it fear

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is taken out of it and there isn't one

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God and it isn't based on faith it is

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based on spirituality the exact opposite

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well you know my presentation is one of

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the things that I talk about that is

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that e.l.f or else they electromagnetic

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light force that that says I studied a

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lot of physics and being an engineer I

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look at the application and also the

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teachers of the esoteric systems of the

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Zuni people and

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tries like the Hopi I have come to that

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conclusion that some of my presentations

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I talked about in the beginning

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spirituality and technology were one and

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the same and they separated it tagged

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for their own whatever purpose it was

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and then in that cycle the one going the

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technical route and the other one going

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the spiritual realm

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on the technical part they invented man

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invented religion for control and fear

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so that they can make make people obey

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and they they went into prison sometime

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way back then so when the other

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religions first came to our indigenous

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tribes they could understand why they

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were being herded into churches and

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places and they had no idea who they

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were talking about about the fear factor

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02:04:41,410 --> 02:04:38,120
so it's always been they they tried very

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hard but because there were more and

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they had weapons they just sort of

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succumb to that even though they did not

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believe in that

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what about telepathy clifford is do you

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have that ability and was that something

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that was practiced it wasn't practice

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among many indian again indigenous folks

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people at that time when they talk about

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telepathy they was also okay going back

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to my my prayer system they will go into

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what people what they call nowadays

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meditation or they would go thats why

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they had these sanctuaries like he vas

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they would go up to the caves up in the

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mountains and they would talk to each

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other throughout the whole world I

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believe and they would use that mental

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telepathy connect with themselves for

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example the people up here knew about

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02:05:47,140 --> 02:05:45,860
the coming of the Spanish even before

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they got here

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the Zuni people were the first contact

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with the Spaniards and they or they knew

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02:05:59,140 --> 02:05:56,300
about them before they even came here so

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there was no maybe they had messengers

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in those days but we had again these

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priests who were designated by by the

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spiritual world or in this case et and

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they gave them the power to look at that

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not only with other peoples but also

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about the weather about the weather

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about the coming droughts or coming of

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other peoples they knew about the other

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people that were going to come even

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before they came here

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so that that falls in that same category

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is what they call mental telepathy or

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communication through the spirit system

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and so what's once the other peoples

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came about then they destroyed those

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transceiver stations all sacred places

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02:06:57,720 --> 02:06:54,349
if you notice that the American

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government has put those sacred places

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02:07:05,229 --> 02:07:02,530
under they in National Park System and

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that way they don't have any people

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02:07:11,379 --> 02:07:07,159
don't have any access to those places

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02:07:13,359 --> 02:07:11,389
and now even we Indian people cannot go

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02:07:16,359 --> 02:07:13,369
in there unless we get special

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02:07:20,050 --> 02:07:16,369
permission and it's just like calling

2345
02:07:21,879 --> 02:07:20,060
the Pope you can't go into the Vatican

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02:07:26,370 --> 02:07:21,889
because you can't have a permit to go

2347
02:07:30,250 --> 02:07:26,380
into the Vatican I wanted to help yeah

2348
02:07:31,899 --> 02:07:30,260
yeah same thing same thing and and back

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02:07:37,330 --> 02:07:31,909
to the am people and certainly with the

2350
02:07:39,669 --> 02:07:37,340
prophecies when the when the story

2351
02:07:42,879 --> 02:07:39,679
started to come out about Dulce New

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02:07:44,709 --> 02:07:42,889
Mexico and an underground base there

2353
02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:44,719
certainly there's the talk about what's

2354
02:07:49,169 --> 02:07:46,610
going on in Antarctica right now and

2355
02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:49,179
other underground bases around the world

2356
02:07:55,689 --> 02:07:53,570
is that the ant people and and were they

2357
02:08:01,170 --> 02:07:55,699
accurate with that is do you think that

2358
02:08:06,310 --> 02:08:01,180
Dulce is connected with the ant people

2359
02:08:11,530 --> 02:08:06,320
news that was inscribed on the walls I I

2360
02:08:14,860 --> 02:08:11,540
don't really know because again the the

2361
02:08:19,690 --> 02:08:14,870
water has been muddied but so many

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02:08:23,950 --> 02:08:19,700
people especially when they wrote so

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02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:23,960
many lies about those places that's why

2364
02:08:30,820 --> 02:08:27,530
I never allow myself to go to those type

2365
02:08:35,650 --> 02:08:30,830
of meetings that have people that have

2366
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:35,660
been exposed to be hoaxers right and and

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02:08:42,070 --> 02:08:38,450
that's what really hurts some of us that

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02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:42,080
are really interested and have basic

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02:08:46,420 --> 02:08:43,850
knowledge about those places because

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02:08:49,630 --> 02:08:46,430
they will they will believe science

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02:08:51,700 --> 02:08:49,640
fiction better than who and them facts

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02:08:54,729 --> 02:08:51,710
and so these people have muddied the

2373
02:08:57,250 --> 02:08:54,739
waters so much cause now they don't even

2374
02:09:00,790 --> 02:08:57,260
know what is true and what is not true

2375
02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:00,800
in the case of Archuleta Mesa over there

2376
02:09:07,479 --> 02:09:03,770
at Dulce the late comers are they

2377
02:09:09,540 --> 02:09:07,489
Hickory Apache right right and the

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02:09:14,170 --> 02:09:09,550
original people were the Pueblo people

2379
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:14,180
so if they know about these places but

2380
02:09:21,610 --> 02:09:18,890
because that they are so fearful of

2381
02:09:25,450 --> 02:09:21,620
coming the government coming after them

2382
02:09:28,930 --> 02:09:25,460
they kind of shut up and so now that

2383
02:09:33,100 --> 02:09:28,940
they have a big convention over there

2384
02:09:35,260 --> 02:09:33,110
now and people have gone to those that

2385
02:09:38,740 --> 02:09:35,270
meeting and the Hickory Apache Tribe

2386
02:09:41,500 --> 02:09:38,750
sponsors that but I have never seen any

2387
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:41,510
good evidence to say if they really know

2388
02:09:47,530 --> 02:09:43,130
what's going on there because it's a

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02:09:51,729 --> 02:09:47,540
military operation and even other places

2390
02:09:53,620 --> 02:09:51,739
for example X Andean Mountain in in

2391
02:09:57,610 --> 02:09:53,630
those areas they're controlled by the

2392
02:10:01,930 --> 02:09:57,620
military or whoever there are so it'd be

2393
02:10:04,390 --> 02:10:01,940
very hard to to actually go in there and

2394
02:10:09,430 --> 02:10:04,400
say yes there's a connection between the

2395
02:10:12,940 --> 02:10:09,440
petroglyphs our our history our rituals

2396
02:10:14,670 --> 02:10:12,950
our spirituality connectivity with these

2397
02:10:17,550 --> 02:10:14,680
places we know them

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02:10:20,540 --> 02:10:17,560
our own names we don't know them by what

2399
02:10:24,900 --> 02:10:20,550
the white man gave Lee for those places

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so we don't know because for example the

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San Francisco Peaks out of Flagstaff

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Arizona they're different names or

2403
02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:32,830
different tribes but they're not called

2404
02:10:38,850 --> 02:10:35,410
San Francisco Peaks in any Indian

2405
02:10:43,140 --> 02:10:38,860
language that I know of so so it's

2406
02:10:46,320 --> 02:10:43,150
really hard to decipher so you know that

2407
02:10:48,660 --> 02:10:46,330
makes me feel pretty good that and

2408
02:10:50,990 --> 02:10:48,670
that's why I asked I ask these types of

2409
02:10:55,470 --> 02:10:51,000
questions because we're all trying to

2410
02:10:58,500 --> 02:10:55,480
wade our way through some very muddy

2411
02:11:02,790 --> 02:10:58,510
waters and part of it is disinformation

2412
02:11:05,730 --> 02:11:02,800
part of it is ego some of it is just

2413
02:11:08,310 --> 02:11:05,740
out-and-out lie in fabrication some of

2414
02:11:11,580 --> 02:11:08,320
it is based on truth some of it is is

2415
02:11:14,250 --> 02:11:11,590
myth and mythology and and we can't

2416
02:11:17,910 --> 02:11:14,260
figure it out but you're exactly right

2417
02:11:19,500 --> 02:11:17,920
you know you just have to look at it and

2418
02:11:21,630 --> 02:11:19,510
and try to figure it out on your own

2419
02:11:23,670 --> 02:11:21,640
that's the only way to do it don't

2420
02:11:25,550 --> 02:11:23,680
believe any one person and don't believe

2421
02:11:31,410 --> 02:11:25,560
the sensationalism

2422
02:11:33,390 --> 02:11:31,420
well the Smithsonian technologies were

2423
02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:33,400
the first one that came to Zuni in the

2424
02:11:41,190 --> 02:11:37,450
1880s I've read their books quite

2425
02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:41,200
thoroughly and a lot of information in

2426
02:11:51,120 --> 02:11:47,530
there is a deviation from from what was

2427
02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:51,130
true to what they wrote about them

2428
02:11:57,810 --> 02:11:54,250
primarily for the reason that they

2429
02:12:01,710 --> 02:11:57,820
bothered to many people didn't according

2430
02:12:04,830 --> 02:12:01,720
to our our people in zuly our and and

2431
02:12:06,990 --> 02:12:04,840
our grandfathers and ancestors they were

2432
02:12:10,410 --> 02:12:07,000
very arrogant I mean they were break

2433
02:12:12,540 --> 02:12:10,420
into places were even higher as are we

2434
02:12:17,580 --> 02:12:12,550
as Indian people cannot go in there

2435
02:12:20,760 --> 02:12:17,590
because they're run by esoteric these

2436
02:12:24,660 --> 02:12:20,770
people and also only you had to go in

2437
02:12:27,320 --> 02:12:24,670
there if you only were initiated but so

2438
02:12:28,429 --> 02:12:27,330
what it did was they gave false

2439
02:12:31,589 --> 02:12:28,439
information

2440
02:12:33,359 --> 02:12:31,599
to give get them out of their hair while

2441
02:12:36,629 --> 02:12:33,369
they're still doing the same I mean

2442
02:12:40,080 --> 02:12:36,639
whether we're trying to break into their

2443
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:40,090
culture so a lot of that stuff that they

2444
02:12:45,779 --> 02:12:42,010
wrote about which are the official

2445
02:12:48,750 --> 02:12:45,789
Smithsonian publications a lot of them

2446
02:12:51,719 --> 02:12:48,760
is not true and I laugh about it when I

2447
02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:51,729
read about him ever so often because

2448
02:12:57,569 --> 02:12:55,570
what they said in those books is because

2449
02:12:58,919 --> 02:12:57,579
they're there they were here the first

2450
02:13:01,500 --> 02:12:58,929
time they didn't know we're know who

2451
02:13:06,179 --> 02:13:01,510
they were so this rule that somebody

2452
02:13:08,909 --> 02:13:06,189
told them now with with the with the

2453
02:13:14,370 --> 02:13:08,919
Hopi and other tribal prophecy and of

2454
02:13:18,029 --> 02:13:14,380
course the Zuni about et and and that

2455
02:13:21,239 --> 02:13:18,039
that eventual discovery about actually

2456
02:13:24,629 --> 02:13:21,249
what's going on is that timing out now

2457
02:13:27,149 --> 02:13:24,639
with the possibility of disclosure today

2458
02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:27,159
what does the prophecy tell us about

2459
02:13:34,859 --> 02:13:32,050
disclosure well it's a see everything

2460
02:13:39,060 --> 02:13:34,869
there's a timeline and it's based upon

2461
02:13:42,569 --> 02:13:39,070
mother nature and the people because way

2462
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:42,579
back when 500,000 years ago we were the

2463
02:13:52,259 --> 02:13:47,530
only indigenous tribes were here and so

2464
02:13:56,399 --> 02:13:52,269
back in 1966 when I was working with a

2465
02:13:59,569 --> 02:13:56,409
Zuni tribe we had a we took some

2466
02:14:02,310 --> 02:13:59,579
recordings of that people that were

2467
02:14:04,139 --> 02:14:02,320
close to a hundred years old including

2468
02:14:07,649 --> 02:14:04,149
one of my I mean including my

2469
02:14:10,799 --> 02:14:07,659
grandfather and he was a historian of

2470
02:14:13,919 --> 02:14:10,809
the tribe or at least that's what the

2471
02:14:19,049 --> 02:14:13,929
tribe says about him but I knew him very

2472
02:14:24,810 --> 02:14:19,059
well and so we collected a whole I don't

2473
02:14:30,839 --> 02:14:24,820
know how many volumes and basically what

2474
02:14:32,819 --> 02:14:30,849
they said was that there that they

2475
02:14:35,459 --> 02:14:32,829
talked about the future cities will

2476
02:14:40,859 --> 02:14:35,469
progress and then the key to the ways of

2477
02:14:42,480 --> 02:14:40,869
the law is beans which means do that's

2478
02:14:45,870 --> 02:14:42,490
what we're going through right now

2479
02:14:49,320 --> 02:14:45,880
you know the lowest beans being those

2480
02:14:51,390 --> 02:14:49,330
people that destroy things drinkers of

2481
02:14:53,100 --> 02:14:51,400
dark liquids which comes into plays

2482
02:14:56,370 --> 02:14:53,110
alcohol and other things

2483
02:15:00,240 --> 02:14:56,380
speaking nonsense and field then the

2484
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:00,250
same thing shall being nearer and one of

2485
02:15:06,030 --> 02:15:02,890
the things that's logical is population

2486
02:15:09,630 --> 02:15:06,040
will increase until the lank and all no

2487
02:15:12,270 --> 02:15:09,640
more the tribes a man will mix which

2488
02:15:14,010 --> 02:15:12,280
already happened the dark liquids they

2489
02:15:17,250 --> 02:15:14,020
drink will cause the people to fight

2490
02:15:19,860 --> 02:15:17,260
among themselves families will break up

2491
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:19,870
father against children and the children

2492
02:15:27,180 --> 02:15:23,050
against one another and also he goes on

2493
02:15:31,290 --> 02:15:27,190
to talk about have outdone itself and

2494
02:15:35,010 --> 02:15:31,300
then the stars will fall upon the land

2495
02:15:39,120 --> 02:15:35,020
or drops of hot water will rain upon the

2496
02:15:42,060 --> 02:15:39,130
earth or the land will turn turn under

2497
02:15:45,380 --> 02:15:42,070
which means earthquakes or our Father

2498
02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:45,390
the Sun will not rise to start the day

2499
02:15:52,650 --> 02:15:48,490
which would probably happen India what

2500
02:15:56,570 --> 02:15:52,660
we call nuclear winter or on earth the

2501
02:15:59,100 --> 02:15:56,580
stops turning and and they say that our

2502
02:16:00,480 --> 02:15:59,110
possessions will turn into beasts and

2503
02:16:02,910 --> 02:16:00,490
devour us Oh

2504
02:16:05,160 --> 02:16:02,920
which is which at that time we used to

2505
02:16:07,650 --> 02:16:05,170
laugh about it because we said well

2506
02:16:12,660 --> 02:16:07,660
maybe our sock drawer is going to devour

2507
02:16:14,520 --> 02:16:12,670
us but later on when I looked at it the

2508
02:16:19,560 --> 02:16:14,530
first thing that came to the Indians

2509
02:16:23,270 --> 02:16:19,570
homes with TV sets the microwave then

2510
02:16:27,810 --> 02:16:23,280
what do we have right now computers and

2511
02:16:31,530 --> 02:16:27,820
because these were not they represent

2512
02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:31,540
when they say devour [\h__\h] look at

2513
02:16:36,150 --> 02:16:34,090
what has happened with our technology it

2514
02:16:39,230 --> 02:16:36,160
has created so many different things

2515
02:16:41,760 --> 02:16:39,240
that they it just starts eating us up

2516
02:16:46,080 --> 02:16:41,770
and then here's another thing too that

2517
02:16:49,320 --> 02:16:46,090
they talk about is that if not there

2518
02:16:52,680 --> 02:16:49,330
will be an odor from gases which will

2519
02:16:55,650 --> 02:16:52,690
feel there we breathe in the end for us

2520
02:16:57,959 --> 02:16:55,660
shall come but

2521
02:17:02,280 --> 02:16:57,969
people themselves will bring upon

2522
02:17:06,180 --> 02:17:02,290
themselves what they receive from what

2523
02:17:08,550 --> 02:17:06,190
they had resulted time alone will tell

2524
02:17:11,760 --> 02:17:08,560
what the future holds for us in other

2525
02:17:14,280 --> 02:17:11,770
words that there are ways to get away

2526
02:17:18,090 --> 02:17:14,290
from it if you go back to the original

2527
02:17:20,820 --> 02:17:18,100
teachings but this is what I could not

2528
02:17:23,400 --> 02:17:20,830
really get out of them see I ran that

2529
02:17:25,890 --> 02:17:23,410
project and I say well what's the answer

2530
02:17:28,890 --> 02:17:25,900
to this saying and then they would say

2531
02:17:31,470 --> 02:17:28,900
well we have to go back to the way that

2532
02:17:34,620 --> 02:17:31,480
we were taught by the Creator in the

2533
02:17:37,080 --> 02:17:34,630
demigods but how many people are willing

2534
02:17:39,600 --> 02:17:37,090
to do that you know they're they can't

2535
02:17:44,040 --> 02:17:39,610
go back and do what a lot of people want

2536
02:17:48,900 --> 02:17:44,050
to do go back to being of one right

2537
02:17:52,970 --> 02:17:48,910
service to service to others and also to

2538
02:17:56,520 --> 02:17:52,980
go back into the system of prayer

2539
02:17:59,520 --> 02:17:56,530
respect for each other and the more it

2540
02:18:01,620 --> 02:17:59,530
looks right now it's going to be a it's

2541
02:18:05,730 --> 02:18:01,630
going to take a very very big

2542
02:18:08,010 --> 02:18:05,740
catastrophe to make it go back to what

2543
02:18:11,700 --> 02:18:08,020
we're we're supposed to have been doing

2544
02:18:15,540 --> 02:18:11,710
all along and this is why I I said that

2545
02:18:18,180 --> 02:18:15,550
what has it is the whole thing the whole

2546
02:18:21,300 --> 02:18:18,190
world or the whole system has to crash

2547
02:18:24,060 --> 02:18:21,310
and burn before we can come back up like

2548
02:18:26,490 --> 02:18:24,070
the Phoenix because that's what we go

2549
02:18:30,720 --> 02:18:26,500
through and our religious rituals we

2550
02:18:33,990 --> 02:18:30,730
actually after our religious rituals we

2551
02:18:36,120 --> 02:18:34,000
actually crash and burn the system so

2552
02:18:40,230 --> 02:18:36,130
they can new can come back up and

2553
02:18:42,900 --> 02:18:40,240
everybody's feelings are back to normal

2554
02:18:45,870 --> 02:18:42,910
everybody loves it they pray together

2555
02:18:48,209 --> 02:18:45,880
and they love each other and this is

2556
02:18:50,040 --> 02:18:48,219
what we go through but how do you make

2557
02:18:52,709 --> 02:18:50,050
the connection to the rest of the world

2558
02:18:54,990 --> 02:18:52,719
and that's where the dark forces come

2559
02:18:59,580 --> 02:18:55,000
into play because the dark forces are

2560
02:19:02,900 --> 02:18:59,590
now over overpowering the good of this

2561
02:19:05,850 --> 02:19:02,910
client and the only way that they can do

2562
02:19:08,520 --> 02:19:05,860
defeat the dark forces and I think we're

2563
02:19:10,120 --> 02:19:08,530
down that road right now because they

2564
02:19:12,490 --> 02:19:10,130
can no long

2565
02:19:17,009 --> 02:19:12,500
afford to do what they have been doing

2566
02:19:20,019 --> 02:19:17,019
because this disclosure will be that way

2567
02:19:22,599 --> 02:19:20,029
to get rid of those people that have

2568
02:19:26,109 --> 02:19:22,609
been doing through that things for I

2569
02:19:29,080 --> 02:19:26,119
don't know how many centuries so that's

2570
02:19:33,099 --> 02:19:29,090
the only way that it can happen have you

2571
02:19:38,439 --> 02:19:33,109
ever met or communicated with the sky

2572
02:19:43,950 --> 02:19:38,449
people or a star person well it's very

2573
02:19:47,229 --> 02:19:43,960
difficult to really not in in the

2574
02:19:50,889 --> 02:19:47,239
three-dimensional world because we some

2575
02:19:54,670 --> 02:19:50,899
of us we have to go into a spiritual

2576
02:19:57,969 --> 02:19:54,680
mode right and that's been the simplest

2577
02:20:00,340 --> 02:19:57,979
way that they communicate with you is

2578
02:20:04,059 --> 02:20:00,350
through dreams or what I think are

2579
02:20:06,969 --> 02:20:04,069
dreams and they also show you a lot of

2580
02:20:09,160 --> 02:20:06,979
people that are trained in that they

2581
02:20:12,189 --> 02:20:09,170
actually know about these things and

2582
02:20:14,800 --> 02:20:12,199
they go through it but again it's like

2583
02:20:17,649 --> 02:20:14,810
anything else it's just like when you

2584
02:20:20,260 --> 02:20:17,659
start talking about UFOs way back in the

2585
02:20:22,300 --> 02:20:20,270
sixties they'll laugh at you so if you

2586
02:20:24,069 --> 02:20:22,310
say that well I talked to the spirit

2587
02:20:28,090 --> 02:20:24,079
beings last night and here's what

2588
02:20:30,429 --> 02:20:28,100
they're there they told me and then they

2589
02:20:32,950 --> 02:20:30,439
look at you and they'll they'll say what

2590
02:20:34,899 --> 02:20:32,960
are you crazy or what and so this is

2591
02:20:38,200 --> 02:20:34,909
what a lot of people go through that

2592
02:20:42,250 --> 02:20:38,210
experience but again for every one

2593
02:20:45,700 --> 02:20:42,260
person there's nine of them that our

2594
02:20:48,490 --> 02:20:45,710
fake also so it's very difficult to get

2595
02:20:51,250 --> 02:20:48,500
the message through I've had experiences

2596
02:20:54,040 --> 02:20:51,260
with a lot of people that many meetings

2597
02:20:56,679 --> 02:20:54,050
and a lot of places for I know that

2598
02:20:59,519 --> 02:20:56,689
they're making these things up because

2599
02:21:02,590 --> 02:20:59,529
you start asking the hard questions and

2600
02:21:05,889 --> 02:21:02,600
the more they the more they make things

2601
02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:05,899
up it gets wilder every times but this

2602
02:21:13,269 --> 02:21:09,250
there is a communication network but

2603
02:21:16,330 --> 02:21:13,279
right now other things that are in play

2604
02:21:18,250 --> 02:21:16,340
right now especially technology and

2605
02:21:21,880 --> 02:21:18,260
right now they're probably listening to

2606
02:21:23,440 --> 02:21:21,890
us not the nothing spiritual beings but

2607
02:21:26,261 --> 02:21:23,450
other places

2608
02:21:30,511 --> 02:21:26,271
that have this communication networks

2609
02:21:34,540 --> 02:21:30,521
pump tapped into and they'll immediately

2610
02:21:36,160 --> 02:21:34,550
turn off a lot of different ways that

2611
02:21:38,740 --> 02:21:36,170
you can communicate with so the

2612
02:21:41,710 --> 02:21:38,750
individual has to do it on his own and

2613
02:21:44,500 --> 02:21:41,720
get all far away from the technological

2614
02:21:48,131 --> 02:21:44,510
devices that are already set up so that

2615
02:21:51,310 --> 02:21:48,141
way they can interpret those ideas or at

2616
02:21:54,490 --> 02:21:51,320
least the prophecies or direct connect

2617
02:21:57,220 --> 02:21:54,500
with the spirit people and their ear yes

2618
02:22:01,480 --> 02:21:57,230
it says that their people are not people

2619
02:22:02,730 --> 02:22:01,490
are so scared of what this nation is

2620
02:22:05,921 --> 02:22:02,740
then the whole world is going through

2621
02:22:10,990 --> 02:22:05,931
Wow and the reason why I asked

2622
02:22:14,261 --> 02:22:11,000
Clifford is how do we differentiate the

2623
02:22:20,530 --> 02:22:14,271
the dark from something that is purely

2624
02:22:23,230 --> 02:22:20,540
spiritual or ET or star or sky being how

2625
02:22:25,570 --> 02:22:23,240
do we know if we are not being deceived

2626
02:22:30,011 --> 02:22:25,580
or being lied to how can we tell the

2627
02:22:32,381 --> 02:22:30,021
difference between light and dark well

2628
02:22:35,080 --> 02:22:32,391
that's another thing too that we go

2629
02:22:39,610 --> 02:22:35,090
through our prayers even though the ETS

2630
02:22:43,900 --> 02:22:39,620
and spiritual beings are so so very far

2631
02:22:47,790 --> 02:22:43,910
out in technological spirituality there

2632
02:22:51,490 --> 02:22:47,800
are also this is really struggling to me

2633
02:22:58,990 --> 02:22:51,500
even the even the smartest among the

2634
02:23:02,200 --> 02:22:59,000
humans are also told to present a lie

2635
02:23:05,110 --> 02:23:02,210
and they go along with it it's the same

2636
02:23:08,051 --> 02:23:05,120
way with spiritual beings and we go

2637
02:23:11,650 --> 02:23:08,061
through our prayers on that and then

2638
02:23:16,030 --> 02:23:11,660
what what what we say to the god is that

2639
02:23:19,710 --> 02:23:16,040
in our prayers is that he who ever turns

2640
02:23:23,860 --> 02:23:19,720
you to go against us do not believe them

2641
02:23:27,040 --> 02:23:23,870
because even though there are Guardians

2642
02:23:29,350 --> 02:23:27,050
there are spirit people they also get

2643
02:23:31,720 --> 02:23:29,360
deceived and this is what really kind of

2644
02:23:34,750 --> 02:23:31,730
puzzled me for a long time the most

2645
02:23:37,180 --> 02:23:34,760
intelligent beings in the universe are

2646
02:23:41,711 --> 02:23:37,190
also are also

2647
02:23:45,400 --> 02:23:41,721
told to go against you or us or whoever

2648
02:23:47,740 --> 02:23:45,410
and that that's where but once you ask

2649
02:23:50,081 --> 02:23:47,750
for their guidance on those things at

2650
02:23:53,440 --> 02:23:50,091
least that you have asked them to do not

2651
02:23:55,810 --> 02:23:53,450
believe those dark forces and it's we're

2652
02:23:59,860 --> 02:23:55,820
humongous right now and all over the

2653
02:24:01,570 --> 02:23:59,870
planet yeah absolutely absolutely I want

2654
02:24:05,791 --> 02:24:01,580
to thank you for coming on the show and

2655
02:24:07,841 --> 02:24:05,801
the last question before we depart

2656
02:24:14,381 --> 02:24:07,851
disclosure is something that everybody

2657
02:24:16,091 --> 02:24:14,391
talks about and you were on a panel you

2658
02:24:17,621 --> 02:24:16,101
are on the panel that I hosted this past

2659
02:24:23,051 --> 02:24:17,631
weekend and one of the questions that I

2660
02:24:26,411 --> 02:24:23,061
hit everybody with was this what is your

2661
02:24:30,220 --> 02:24:26,421
definition of disclosure Clifford it

2662
02:24:32,230 --> 02:24:30,230
means so it's got a different meaning to

2663
02:24:36,940 --> 02:24:32,240
show it to everybody what's your

2664
02:24:39,730 --> 02:24:36,950
definition of disclosure I don't

2665
02:24:43,961 --> 02:24:39,740
remember you don't remember you were

2666
02:24:49,020 --> 02:24:43,971
late oh yeah you want me to throw you

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02:24:56,051 --> 02:24:51,430
Clifford what is your definition of

2668
02:24:59,560 --> 02:24:56,061
disclosure disclosure is belief in

2669
02:25:04,961 --> 02:24:59,570
yourself first and to use discernment

2670
02:25:07,001 --> 02:25:04,971
and to take things that you have learned

2671
02:25:12,480 --> 02:25:07,011
throughout many many different sources

2672
02:25:16,770 --> 02:25:12,490
and this closure would be what you have

2673
02:25:19,780 --> 02:25:16,780
yourself from the spiritual and the

2674
02:25:26,411 --> 02:25:19,790
other different ways of your teachings

2675
02:25:29,501 --> 02:25:26,421
to know what is to be true and to again

2676
02:25:32,110 --> 02:25:29,511
do not listen to anybody except those

2677
02:25:34,900 --> 02:25:32,120
people that have to like like kind like

2678
02:25:38,350 --> 02:25:34,910
the lightworkers so I believe they want

2679
02:25:41,621 --> 02:25:38,360
to make a group that can talk about the

2680
02:25:45,121 --> 02:25:41,631
truth and then extend it in all

2681
02:25:50,081 --> 02:25:45,131
directions and it's become it become the

2682
02:25:51,050 --> 02:25:50,091
things that are not theorized but

2683
02:25:53,149 --> 02:25:51,060
actually something

2684
02:25:56,750 --> 02:25:53,159
that you can look at it and say that

2685
02:25:59,120 --> 02:25:56,760
based upon many deductions even maybe

2686
02:26:02,719 --> 02:25:59,130
even the scientific method and also

2687
02:26:04,550 --> 02:26:02,729
include the spirituality part of it to

2688
02:26:07,219 --> 02:26:04,560
say that this is the way that we're

2689
02:26:09,859 --> 02:26:07,229
going to disclose this information and

2690
02:26:12,740 --> 02:26:09,869
let people know about it when it's the

2691
02:26:16,700 --> 02:26:12,750
truth the only way that the disclosure

2692
02:26:19,580 --> 02:26:16,710
will happen is that if it's founded 100%

2693
02:26:22,010 --> 02:26:19,590
with with truth rather than somebody

2694
02:26:24,530 --> 02:26:22,020
that made it up so that's the way I look

2695
02:26:28,340 --> 02:26:24,540
at it thank you so much Clifford and I

2696
02:26:31,700 --> 02:26:28,350
do mean this when you walk into a room

2697
02:26:34,490 --> 02:26:31,710
you step around a group of people you

2698
02:26:36,380 --> 02:26:34,500
brighten up everybody and I want to

2699
02:26:40,309 --> 02:26:36,390
thank you for just that you have that

2700
02:26:42,979 --> 02:26:40,319
ability to make people smile laugh and

2701
02:26:47,679 --> 02:26:42,989
enjoy life and please don't ever change

2702
02:26:50,540 --> 02:26:47,689
thank you so much Clifford thank you

2703
02:26:53,500 --> 02:26:50,550
thank you so much Clifford have a great

2704
02:26:57,260 --> 02:26:53,510
night my friend thank you

2705
02:27:00,559 --> 02:26:57,270
clifford mahooty and i and i do mean it

2706
02:27:04,300 --> 02:27:00,569
it's it's amazing you will be in a group

2707
02:27:08,840 --> 02:27:04,310
of people and and up walks Clifford and

2708
02:27:11,569 --> 02:27:08,850
the he has a bright ray of sunshine that

2709
02:27:14,179 --> 02:27:11,579
follows him wherever he goes what a

2710
02:27:15,679 --> 02:27:14,189
great conversation tonight clifford

2711
02:27:17,899 --> 02:27:15,689
mahooty this is fade to black

2712
02:27:19,490 --> 02:27:17,909
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2713
02:27:21,550 --> 02:27:19,500
open up the phone lines I'll be right

2714
02:27:34,470 --> 02:27:21,560
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welcome back fade to black Wow Wow Wow

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okay yeah you know I'm gonna say it that

2801
02:32:12,400 --> 02:32:09,290
was an amazing conversation with

2802
02:32:14,740 --> 02:32:12,410
clifford mahooty and just judging from

2803
02:32:18,310 --> 02:32:14,750
everybody's responses here in the email

2804
02:32:20,650 --> 02:32:18,320
and and it's just I'm in agreement just

2805
02:32:25,060 --> 02:32:20,660
a fascinating conversation tonight one

2806
02:32:27,190 --> 02:32:25,070
that we don't often have here and and I

2807
02:32:30,580 --> 02:32:27,200
just I just want to say thank you I

2808
02:32:32,020 --> 02:32:30,590
appreciate Clifford and everything that

2809
02:32:33,370 --> 02:32:32,030
he does and if you've ever had a chance

2810
02:32:35,921 --> 02:32:33,380
to talk to him he's one of the nicest

2811
02:32:39,551 --> 02:32:35,931
coolest guys you're ever gonna meet but

2812
02:32:42,820 --> 02:32:39,561
super super smart and and educated and

2813
02:32:48,011 --> 02:32:42,830
he brightens up a room dude walks around

2814
02:32:49,390 --> 02:32:48,021
I'm not kidding he glows he glows and if

2815
02:32:49,631 --> 02:32:49,400
you've met him you know what I'm talking

2816
02:32:51,761 --> 02:32:49,641
about

2817
02:32:53,680 --> 02:32:51,771
but this this thing this bright ray of

2818
02:32:55,421 --> 02:32:53,690
sunshine follows him around wherever he

2819
02:32:58,211 --> 02:32:55,431
goes and I do want to thank you for the

2820
02:33:02,320 --> 02:32:58,221
conversation tonight all right a couple

2821
02:33:05,110 --> 02:33:02,330
of things I'm going to do a little bit

2822
02:33:09,430 --> 02:33:05,120
of a sneak announcement here I get a lot

2823
02:33:15,580 --> 02:33:09,440
of emails and comments about our TV show

2824
02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:15,590
on history and history let us know today

2825
02:33:25,240 --> 02:33:21,610
that we will be getting allegedly a date

2826
02:33:28,541 --> 02:33:25,250
for the premiere of the show which will

2827
02:33:31,570 --> 02:33:28,551
be sometime this fall which indicates to

2828
02:33:34,301 --> 02:33:31,580
me September or October and we will have

2829
02:33:37,421 --> 02:33:34,311
that date next week holding them to the

2830
02:33:40,660 --> 02:33:37,431
fire on this the show was great a lot of

2831
02:33:44,791 --> 02:33:40,670
expense and time was spent on this we

2832
02:33:47,801 --> 02:33:44,801
shot all over the country on location

2833
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built a beautiful set and everything

2834
02:33:56,291 --> 02:33:52,880
that was put into this hopefully of this

2835
02:33:57,370 --> 02:33:56,301
is gonna premiere a very very very soon

2836
02:33:59,261 --> 02:33:57,380
and we'll be able to make this

2837
02:34:03,041 --> 02:33:59,271
announcement next week we've been

2838
02:34:05,770 --> 02:34:03,051
walking around just four five six inches

2839
02:34:08,261 --> 02:34:05,780
off the ground today with that most

2840
02:34:13,900 --> 02:34:08,271
excellent news that was handed down to

2841
02:34:14,429 --> 02:34:13,910
us so there you go I I can't wait I

2842
02:34:17,399 --> 02:34:14,439
can't wait

2843
02:34:21,889 --> 02:34:17,409
for you to see it and enjoy it as well

2844
02:34:26,550 --> 02:34:21,899
okay so that'll be coming up also

2845
02:34:29,489 --> 02:34:26,560
apparently there were you know a couple

2846
02:34:32,429 --> 02:34:29,499
of trolls or a troll maybe it was one

2847
02:34:37,769 --> 02:34:32,439
person that was - playing the role of

2848
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:37,779
two lives today and and look everybody

2849
02:34:45,000 --> 02:34:41,050
you have to understand I don't see them

2850
02:34:47,580 --> 02:34:45,010
okay I block I have people that block

2851
02:34:50,010 --> 02:34:47,590
everybody block and so I don't I

2852
02:34:52,170 --> 02:34:50,020
literally don't get distracted with it

2853
02:34:56,069 --> 02:34:52,180
and I don't see it and I don't get to

2854
02:34:58,679 --> 02:34:56,079
enjoy it like the rest of you guys did

2855
02:35:01,170 --> 02:34:58,689
tonight and if they anything like that

2856
02:35:03,149 --> 02:35:01,180
jumps off and just block man report and

2857
02:35:10,469 --> 02:35:03,159
block and nobody cares life is too short

2858
02:35:14,279 --> 02:35:10,479
nobody nobody cares and it it really it

2859
02:35:18,660 --> 02:35:14,289
really sucks if you are into the

2860
02:35:20,849 --> 02:35:18,670
trolling game whatever it is that the

2861
02:35:26,160 --> 02:35:20,859
people that you are trying to aggravate

2862
02:35:30,960 --> 02:35:26,170
don't care about you I mean that really

2863
02:35:34,170 --> 02:35:30,970
must bum the troll out that day it's

2864
02:35:36,149 --> 02:35:34,180
really funny and so obviously if it's

2865
02:35:40,380 --> 02:35:36,159
directed at the fate or knots or at our

2866
02:35:43,199 --> 02:35:40,390
chat rooms or in in the sandbox or at me

2867
02:35:46,649 --> 02:35:43,209
and I'm not reading it and most others

2868
02:35:50,099 --> 02:35:46,659
are not - as well then that really must

2869
02:35:54,420 --> 02:35:50,109
suck right so you gotta love it man you

2870
02:35:56,779 --> 02:35:54,430
just gotta love it I I honestly I was

2871
02:35:59,790 --> 02:35:56,789
watching everything tonight I'm like man

2872
02:36:04,380 --> 02:35:59,800
somebody you know you guys are enjoying

2873
02:36:08,880 --> 02:36:04,390
this and I I i just couldn't I couldn't

2874
02:36:12,330 --> 02:36:08,890
I couldn't enjoy the moment so just let

2875
02:36:16,889 --> 02:36:12,340
you know and I have no idea so I would

2876
02:36:19,170 --> 02:36:16,899
have to go and unblock what a thousand

2877
02:36:22,349 --> 02:36:19,180
people to get to whoever this is I have

2878
02:36:23,790 --> 02:36:22,359
no idea but it looks like you guys were

2879
02:36:25,160 --> 02:36:23,800
enjoying yourselves tonight and having

2880
02:36:30,910 --> 02:36:25,170
some fun

2881
02:36:34,430 --> 02:36:30,920
trolls are just bored stoners could be

2882
02:36:39,500 --> 02:36:34,440
could be there you go yeah somebody just

2883
02:36:42,890 --> 02:36:39,510
said Oh John Titor single seven just

2884
02:36:46,670 --> 02:36:42,900
said maybe Clifford is a light-being and

2885
02:36:47,720 --> 02:36:46,680
let me tell you something I wouldn't

2886
02:36:57,290 --> 02:36:47,730
doubt it

2887
02:37:00,080 --> 02:36:57,300
there is a magic in his eyes and when he

2888
02:37:03,051 --> 02:37:00,090
smiles and laughs and looks at you there

2889
02:37:06,860 --> 02:37:03,061
was something going on with Clifford

2890
02:37:10,270 --> 02:37:06,870
talk about awakened and you know he must

2891
02:37:16,011 --> 02:37:10,280
see the world in just a panchromatic

2892
02:37:19,340 --> 02:37:16,021
thing just a full vivid living color it

2893
02:37:21,890 --> 02:37:19,350
just wow yeah yeah I agree with that

2894
02:37:24,920 --> 02:37:21,900
how smart to ask natives about UFOs and

2895
02:37:28,511 --> 02:37:24,930
technology we would ask more it usually

2896
02:37:31,670 --> 02:37:28,521
it's usually White's asking ourselves

2897
02:37:33,820 --> 02:37:31,680
respect that's from Kim Kim that's

2898
02:37:36,830 --> 02:37:33,830
actually pretty good

2899
02:37:38,780 --> 02:37:36,840
Tom don't be mocking us daughter's

2900
02:37:42,051 --> 02:37:38,790
birthday Bassam that's what I was

2901
02:37:46,040 --> 02:37:42,061
thinking I was going I was going right

2902
02:37:47,840 --> 02:37:46,050
there Jimmy you have a show to run we

2903
02:37:48,680 --> 02:37:47,850
can take care of things out here that's

2904
02:37:52,761 --> 02:37:48,690
exactly it

2905
02:37:54,590 --> 02:37:52,771
believe it or not I know that that's

2906
02:37:57,560 --> 02:37:54,600
exactly what goes on the fader Knotts

2907
02:38:01,551 --> 02:37:57,570
what did I post fader knots eat rolls

2908
02:38:03,350 --> 02:38:01,561
they taste like chicken and I do mean

2909
02:38:05,630 --> 02:38:03,360
that I really do mean that you guys have

2910
02:38:09,740 --> 02:38:05,640
my back have the show's back you have

2911
02:38:11,960 --> 02:38:09,750
the sandboxes buy back you have the the

2912
02:38:14,000 --> 02:38:11,970
chat rooms and I love all of it that

2913
02:38:18,710 --> 02:38:14,010
that's the beauty of what we have built

2914
02:38:19,610 --> 02:38:18,720
here the family is impossible to

2915
02:38:21,860 --> 02:38:19,620
penetrate

2916
02:38:24,261 --> 02:38:21,870
you're not gonna ruffle these feathers

2917
02:38:27,380 --> 02:38:24,271
here because we recognize what's going

2918
02:38:33,110 --> 02:38:27,390
on we see it from miles away

2919
02:38:35,180 --> 02:38:33,120
oh oh absolutely hysterical all right

2920
02:38:38,150 --> 02:38:35,190
you know what I was gonna get to some

2921
02:38:38,810 --> 02:38:38,160
news let's get to some phone calls hi

2922
02:38:42,230 --> 02:38:38,820
your life

2923
02:38:47,060 --> 02:38:42,240
to block who's calling hi Jimmy this is

2924
02:38:48,770 --> 02:38:47,070
Nathan hey Nathan how are you man pretty

2925
02:38:51,980 --> 02:38:48,780
good how you doing I'm doing I'm doing

2926
02:38:54,921 --> 02:38:51,990
great after clifford mahooty are you

2927
02:38:58,900 --> 02:38:54,931
kidding oh yeah yeah that was just an

2928
02:39:02,390 --> 02:38:58,910
amazing show what did you think Nathan

2929
02:39:07,220 --> 02:39:02,400
well I wanted to call and say from an

2930
02:39:10,070 --> 02:39:07,230
experiences perspective you know you

2931
02:39:13,220 --> 02:39:10,080
hear a lot more from Native Americans

2932
02:39:19,900 --> 02:39:13,230
that they're much more openly willing to

2933
02:39:22,551 --> 02:39:19,910
accept it and it's strange that we can't

2934
02:39:25,041 --> 02:39:22,561
find that kind of unity within our own

2935
02:39:27,381 --> 02:39:25,051
communities well and they've been

2936
02:39:30,620 --> 02:39:27,391
they've been they've been talking about

2937
02:39:35,030 --> 02:39:30,630
this and relating to it and seeing it

2938
02:39:37,520 --> 02:39:35,040
and connecting to it and understanding

2939
02:39:41,600 --> 02:39:37,530
it for hundreds if not thousands of

2940
02:39:44,720 --> 02:39:41,610
years right they get fully fully get it

2941
02:39:49,190 --> 02:39:44,730
and when I say get it I'm talking about

2942
02:39:54,501 --> 02:39:49,200
on all levels they they connect they

2943
02:39:57,740 --> 02:39:54,511
communicate they they learn you know

2944
02:40:02,470 --> 02:39:57,750
from all of this and that's the amazing

2945
02:40:06,921 --> 02:40:02,480
part we the rest of the world is

2946
02:40:09,711 --> 02:40:06,931
fighting it not embracing it fighting it

2947
02:40:12,320 --> 02:40:09,721
and and trying to ignore it and act like

2948
02:40:14,810 --> 02:40:12,330
it's not there it's not real and that we

2949
02:40:18,680 --> 02:40:14,820
are alone in the universe

2950
02:40:21,801 --> 02:40:18,690
how absurd is that I mean an ignorant

2951
02:40:24,950 --> 02:40:21,811
right and so you're you're absolutely

2952
02:40:28,341 --> 02:40:24,960
right man when it comes to the tribes

2953
02:40:33,131 --> 02:40:28,351
across this country who were here before

2954
02:40:35,990 --> 02:40:33,141
us right since that simple bet

2955
02:40:38,541 --> 02:40:36,000
you go - and have you been to Nathan

2956
02:40:40,430 --> 02:40:38,551
have you been - as an experience or have

2957
02:40:42,440 --> 02:40:40,440
you been to any of the sacred sites have

2958
02:40:45,711 --> 02:40:42,450
you been to Sedona the Grand Canyon or

2959
02:40:48,620 --> 02:40:45,721
Chaco Canyon or Joshua tree or the

2960
02:40:51,979 --> 02:40:48,630
Yakima reservation have you been to any

2961
02:40:54,439 --> 02:40:51,989
of these spots and observed anything

2962
02:40:58,130 --> 02:40:54,449
no far this way I've been to Seattle

2963
02:40:59,779 --> 02:40:58,140
before I've been doing I've never been

2964
02:41:03,710 --> 02:40:59,789
to any of the sacred sites I've drum

2965
02:41:08,630 --> 02:41:03,720
Colorado originally well everything goes

2966
02:41:10,519 --> 02:41:08,640
on in Colorado yeah yeah I spent a lot

2967
02:41:12,590 --> 02:41:10,529
of time in the mountains in Colorado so

2968
02:41:14,389 --> 02:41:12,600
I've been around what was probably at

2969
02:41:22,130 --> 02:41:14,399
least at one point in time somebody's

2970
02:41:23,869 --> 02:41:22,140
sacred land and yeah but you know I was

2971
02:41:27,199 --> 02:41:23,879
on the east most of my life as an

2972
02:41:30,489 --> 02:41:27,209
experience there I don't know why I'm an

2973
02:41:33,439 --> 02:41:30,499
experience there I'm the last person to

2974
02:41:35,210 --> 02:41:33,449
you would expect to think that they

2975
02:41:39,439 --> 02:41:35,220
would reach out to I don't have a lot of

2976
02:41:41,269 --> 02:41:39,449
I'm not I'm not so social because of it

2977
02:41:46,429 --> 02:41:41,279
you know I'm not exactly comfortable

2978
02:41:48,590 --> 02:41:46,439
with it right guys I can I that's just

2979
02:41:54,319 --> 02:41:48,600
me personally right don't ever get

2980
02:41:58,069 --> 02:41:54,329
comfortable with it yeah you don't want

2981
02:42:01,309 --> 02:41:58,079
to be in that zone with my own

2982
02:42:04,999 --> 02:42:01,319
experiences you know when I see stuff in

2983
02:42:06,619 --> 02:42:05,009
the sky my mind is still blown every

2984
02:42:09,109 --> 02:42:06,629
single time it's like the first time

2985
02:42:10,880 --> 02:42:09,119
every you know it's just it's it's a

2986
02:42:12,889 --> 02:42:10,890
wonderful thing to experience but I

2987
02:42:16,489 --> 02:42:12,899
gotta tell you that that thing that

2988
02:42:20,239 --> 02:42:16,499
happened in my room back in 95 96 I'll

2989
02:42:23,239 --> 02:42:20,249
never get comfortable with that I didn't

2990
02:42:26,599 --> 02:42:23,249
dig it no man I didn't dig it I'd I was

2991
02:42:28,189 --> 02:42:26,609
not I was not cool with it I've had so

2992
02:42:30,079 --> 02:42:28,199
many people that have asked me to

2993
02:42:33,139 --> 02:42:30,089
regress and go back and find out what

2994
02:42:37,159 --> 02:42:33,149
actually happened and and and and you

2995
02:42:39,319 --> 02:42:37,169
know don't I want to know no I don't I'm

2996
02:42:42,069 --> 02:42:39,329
don't Nathan thank you for the phone

2997
02:42:45,199 --> 02:42:42,079
call my friend and be safe out there

2998
02:42:46,999 --> 02:42:45,209
you got it Nathan great phone call let's

2999
02:42:51,859 --> 02:42:47,009
just uh stay on the phones hi your life

3000
02:42:54,559 --> 02:42:51,869
on fade to black who's calling hey John

3001
02:42:56,809 --> 02:42:54,569
how are you good man thank you very much

3002
02:43:01,249 --> 02:42:56,819
I was just curious of all the talk of

3003
02:43:03,619 --> 02:43:01,259
Maria and all the tests going on has

3004
02:43:06,131 --> 02:43:03,629
anyone had such a simple thing just us

3005
02:43:08,900 --> 02:43:06,141
and having a taxidermist

3006
02:43:12,171 --> 02:43:08,910
yeah somebody is that you that just

3007
02:43:14,511 --> 02:43:12,181
tweeted this I did that I realized you

3008
02:43:16,491 --> 02:43:14,521
were live so I called yeah that's right

3009
02:43:18,220 --> 02:43:16,501
what are the odds of getting through on

3010
02:43:22,671 --> 02:43:18,230
the foot you know why you got through

3011
02:43:24,051 --> 02:43:22,681
because I saw that's why you got through

3012
02:43:26,390 --> 02:43:24,061
you know and I see that you're a

3013
02:43:27,801 --> 02:43:26,400
first-time caller and I will always put

3014
02:43:32,091 --> 02:43:27,811
a first-time caller to the front of the

3015
02:43:34,911 --> 02:43:32,101
line and as you said that I was reading

3016
02:43:37,730 --> 02:43:34,921
your tweet which is hey Jimmy might

3017
02:43:39,591 --> 02:43:37,740
sound like a weird question I'm not a

3018
02:43:42,291 --> 02:43:39,601
doubter but has anybody had a

3019
02:43:43,671 --> 02:43:42,301
taxidermists look at Maria and then you

3020
02:43:45,801 --> 02:43:43,681
turn around and call him with the same

3021
02:43:50,060 --> 02:43:45,811
question so there you go the answer is

3022
02:43:51,171 --> 02:43:50,070
wrong and you got through some things

3023
02:43:53,841 --> 02:43:51,181
are meant to be I

3024
02:43:55,581 --> 02:43:53,851
I will follow up on this for you how's

3025
02:44:00,201 --> 02:43:55,591
that because I don't know the actual

3026
02:44:03,081 --> 02:44:00,211
answer to the question but we're gonna

3027
02:44:05,001 --> 02:44:03,091
find out and I mean I know it's a lot of

3028
02:44:06,711 --> 02:44:05,011
science will prove it all in the end but

3029
02:44:08,781 --> 02:44:06,721
it kind of seems like one of the more

3030
02:44:11,301 --> 02:44:08,791
obvious first is look at it you know

3031
02:44:13,211 --> 02:44:11,311
there's the old jacker avinasi old the

3032
02:44:16,100 --> 02:44:13,221
old you know the fakes under the skin

3033
02:44:17,480 --> 02:44:16,110
and I'm just curious for me we talk

3034
02:44:19,161 --> 02:44:17,490
about these x-rays and it looks like

3035
02:44:20,900 --> 02:44:19,171
there's been no severing of the fingers

3036
02:44:23,031 --> 02:44:20,910
they shouldn't look natural and joint

3037
02:44:24,711 --> 02:44:23,041
soon imagine everything that you know

3038
02:44:27,051 --> 02:44:24,721
possibly has ever been just a quick

3039
02:44:29,390 --> 02:44:27,061
quick analysis those can't you know I

3040
02:44:34,371 --> 02:44:29,400
can't do things in such a way right yeah

3041
02:44:38,770 --> 02:44:34,381
and when I look at the x-rays and I look

3042
02:44:42,020 --> 02:44:38,780
at the MRIs what I am looking for is

3043
02:44:44,360 --> 02:44:42,030
something that doesn't look right to me

3044
02:44:47,020 --> 02:44:44,370
I'm not I'm not some doctor you know I

3045
02:44:49,220 --> 02:44:47,030
don't have some crazy degree and

3046
02:44:52,220 --> 02:44:49,230
anthropologist or anything no I don't

3047
02:44:54,201 --> 02:44:52,230
know but when I look at the wrists and

3048
02:44:56,661 --> 02:44:54,211
and I know that there's three fingers

3049
02:44:58,430 --> 02:44:56,671
there and I'm looking at something that

3050
02:44:59,810 --> 02:44:58,440
would look like it was cut off or

3051
02:45:03,171 --> 02:44:59,820
something that doesn't look right in the

3052
02:45:04,671 --> 02:45:03,181
bones that it used to be five fingers

3053
02:45:07,730 --> 02:45:04,681
and now it's three because somebody just

3054
02:45:11,541 --> 02:45:07,740
cut it off and folded this skin over

3055
02:45:14,991 --> 02:45:11,551
whatever that's what I'm looking for and

3056
02:45:17,751 --> 02:45:15,001
I don't see anything to me that looks

3057
02:45:19,070 --> 02:45:17,761
incorrect now I talk to I'll tell you

3058
02:45:21,680 --> 02:45:19,080
something interesting

3059
02:45:23,590 --> 02:45:21,690
talk to a friend of mine either

3060
02:45:27,220 --> 02:45:23,600
yesterday or the day before that

3061
02:45:30,920 --> 02:45:27,230
actually has looked at the x-rays

3062
02:45:33,620 --> 02:45:30,930
firsthand the not not the video I'm

3063
02:45:36,080 --> 02:45:33,630
talking about putting up these two foot

3064
02:45:39,830 --> 02:45:36,090
by three foot x-rays and is looking at

3065
02:45:42,860 --> 02:45:39,840
it on all the right and and this is what

3066
02:45:44,450 --> 02:45:42,870
he said to me and this guy and I know

3067
02:45:46,850 --> 02:45:44,460
he's listening right now I'm not gonna

3068
02:45:50,420 --> 02:45:46,860
say his name this guy is one of the

3069
02:45:52,820 --> 02:45:50,430
coolest coolest skeptics out there

3070
02:45:56,630 --> 02:45:52,830
this guy questions everything in fact

3071
02:45:59,060 --> 02:45:56,640
everything that this guy is BS unless we

3072
02:46:01,330 --> 02:45:59,070
are you know bringing facts forward or

3073
02:46:03,980 --> 02:46:01,340
some type of evidence or other

3074
02:46:06,410 --> 02:46:03,990
eyewitnesses because and yet you know

3075
02:46:09,890 --> 02:46:06,420
and and he's also a show host but

3076
02:46:11,990 --> 02:46:09,900
definitely definitely believe I oh no no

3077
02:46:12,890 --> 02:46:12,000
no no and I and I love this guy and I

3078
02:46:14,870 --> 02:46:12,900
trust this guy

3079
02:46:16,790 --> 02:46:14,880
and this is what he said to me cuz dude

3080
02:46:18,620 --> 02:46:16,800
I'm looking at the x-rays and I'm

3081
02:46:20,360 --> 02:46:18,630
looking at the tendons and I'm looking

3082
02:46:21,620 --> 02:46:20,370
at some of the Cartland I'm seeing how

3083
02:46:24,500 --> 02:46:21,630
things are put together I'm looking at

3084
02:46:27,320 --> 02:46:24,510
this I'm going to hi you know what this

3085
02:46:30,500 --> 02:46:27,330
looks real to me this looks like three

3086
02:46:32,930 --> 02:46:30,510
fingers this doesn't look faked there's

3087
02:46:36,320 --> 02:46:32,940
something here that is making me

3088
02:46:38,600 --> 02:46:36,330
question things and so when I hear that

3089
02:46:40,551 --> 02:46:38,610
because I haven't seen the x-rays but

3090
02:46:43,280 --> 02:46:40,561
when I hear that coming from a friend of

3091
02:46:47,180 --> 02:46:43,290
mine who I'm telling you right now has

3092
02:46:49,040 --> 02:46:47,190
no problem in calling somebody BS and

3093
02:46:51,440 --> 02:46:49,050
throwing them on the mat and slapping

3094
02:46:55,310 --> 02:46:51,450
him around in fact he's one of the best

3095
02:46:57,290 --> 02:46:55,320
at it and and he's usually right okay

3096
02:46:58,490 --> 02:46:57,300
and so when he no Jimmy right there see

3097
02:46:59,540 --> 02:46:58,500
there seems to be some real truth is

3098
02:47:01,551 --> 02:46:59,550
because you know there's an old saying

3099
02:47:04,190 --> 02:47:01,561
that uh you know common sense isn't that

3100
02:47:06,170 --> 02:47:04,200
common right and when you look at these

3101
02:47:09,340 --> 02:47:06,180
when you look at these the evidence so

3102
02:47:12,920 --> 02:47:09,350
far it's it's very enticing it's very

3103
02:47:15,020 --> 02:47:12,930
the people who want to dismiss it

3104
02:47:17,600 --> 02:47:15,030
without any you know right off the bat

3105
02:47:19,610 --> 02:47:17,610
don't really they just they just want to

3106
02:47:20,990 --> 02:47:19,620
be a one way street versus the more and

3107
02:47:22,730 --> 02:47:21,000
more you see about it the more you have

3108
02:47:24,770 --> 02:47:22,740
to really really believe that there's

3109
02:47:27,590 --> 02:47:24,780
possibly something really something to

3110
02:47:30,140 --> 02:47:27,600
this well and look and see now John I'm

3111
02:47:31,990 --> 02:47:30,150
glad you bring up that point because

3112
02:47:36,660 --> 02:47:32,000
this is the truth

3113
02:47:43,180 --> 02:47:36,670
you cannot make a determination that

3114
02:47:46,090 --> 02:47:43,190
it's real or that it is a hoax from the

3115
02:47:48,310 --> 02:47:46,100
video that has been presented you cannot

3116
02:47:50,410 --> 02:47:48,320
you can't go in either direction you

3117
02:47:52,870 --> 02:47:50,420
cannot tell me it's real and you can't

3118
02:47:54,220 --> 02:47:52,880
tell me that it's a hoax and everybody

3119
02:47:55,090 --> 02:47:54,230
that is trying to make this

3120
02:47:57,760 --> 02:47:55,100
determination

3121
02:48:00,700 --> 02:47:57,770
in either way is not an anthropologist

3122
02:48:04,660 --> 02:48:00,710
is not a biologist it's not an

3123
02:48:06,430 --> 02:48:04,670
archaeologist is not right never get the

3124
02:48:08,230 --> 02:48:06,440
question of faith a lot of people some

3125
02:48:09,340 --> 02:48:08,240
people just dealing just like believing

3126
02:48:11,620 --> 02:48:09,350
in a God that you've never met before

3127
02:48:14,800 --> 02:48:11,630
but some people it's just inconceivable

3128
02:48:17,680 --> 02:48:14,810
because they cannot believe anything

3129
02:48:21,390 --> 02:48:17,690
else except what they have been raised

3130
02:48:27,010 --> 02:48:21,400
believe right right and unless you are

3131
02:48:29,620 --> 02:48:27,020
some kind of coroner forensic after

3132
02:48:32,200 --> 02:48:29,630
somebody that has a professional

3133
02:48:34,750 --> 02:48:32,210
background in looking at this with your

3134
02:48:37,390 --> 02:48:34,760
eyes and be able to make some kind of

3135
02:48:39,940 --> 02:48:37,400
decision unless you are that then you

3136
02:48:42,700 --> 02:48:39,950
are you you're not qualified to say

3137
02:48:46,540 --> 02:48:42,710
anything when the DNA comes in I'm not

3138
02:48:48,550 --> 02:48:46,550
qualified I'm not qualified at all and

3139
02:48:51,460 --> 02:48:48,560
the people and the people involved you

3140
02:48:53,320 --> 02:48:51,470
know they're not making any definitive

3141
02:48:55,270 --> 02:48:53,330
decisions they're just doing the

3142
02:48:57,400 --> 02:48:55,280
scientific process and they're doing the

3143
02:48:59,080 --> 02:48:57,410
best they can and like they say they'll

3144
02:49:00,250 --> 02:48:59,090
admit if they've been hoaxed if it helps

3145
02:49:01,930 --> 02:49:00,260
but right now what they're doing is the

3146
02:49:04,420 --> 02:49:01,940
best they can to do it the proper way

3147
02:49:07,030 --> 02:49:04,430
and and making no assumptions yep and

3148
02:49:10,030 --> 02:49:07,040
right now they're gonna them yep that's

3149
02:49:13,570 --> 02:49:10,040
right John and the preliminary DNA that

3150
02:49:15,910 --> 02:49:13,580
has come back has said that the bones

3151
02:49:17,950 --> 02:49:15,920
match all the bones in the body that

3152
02:49:20,740 --> 02:49:17,960
matches the skin it matches the tissue

3153
02:49:23,200 --> 02:49:20,750
samples it's all the same DNA in other

3154
02:49:26,590 --> 02:49:23,210
words we don't have I keep saying this

3155
02:49:29,530 --> 02:49:26,600
but like a an honor Christ or some kind

3156
02:49:32,350 --> 02:49:29,540
of you know other animal body parts sewn

3157
02:49:34,840 --> 02:49:32,360
on to this and and make a look and I

3158
02:49:36,610 --> 02:49:34,850
like the DNA is more human than it is

3159
02:49:39,160 --> 02:49:36,620
monkey you know or more yeah it's

3160
02:49:43,540 --> 02:49:39,170
definitely leaning and is leaning in our

3161
02:49:44,889 --> 02:49:43,550
favor as far as uh you know as this

3162
02:49:47,050 --> 02:49:44,899
becoming true and whatever

3163
02:49:49,239 --> 02:49:47,060
we hope it is you know yeah and if it

3164
02:49:51,069 --> 02:49:49,249
comes back check it out what I think

3165
02:49:53,170 --> 02:49:51,079
would be the most impressive thing to

3166
02:49:56,620 --> 02:49:53,180
come back John and I know this sounds

3167
02:50:00,729 --> 02:49:56,630
trippy but if this comes back Homo

3168
02:50:04,120 --> 02:50:00,739
Sapien right homos I'm talking about us

3169
02:50:06,370 --> 02:50:04,130
but a three finger three toed version of

3170
02:50:09,250 --> 02:50:06,380
us holy crap right

3171
02:50:15,550 --> 02:50:09,260
holy crap it's like the whole new

3172
02:50:17,349 --> 02:50:15,560
meaning to the missing link oh man two

3173
02:50:19,229 --> 02:50:17,359
legs hey John have a good night my

3174
02:50:21,760 --> 02:50:19,239
friend and don't be a stranger

3175
02:50:25,300 --> 02:50:21,770
thanks Jimmy first-time caller and uh

3176
02:50:25,840 --> 02:50:25,310
looking for a while no luck again when I

3177
02:50:28,149 --> 02:50:25,850
call back

3178
02:50:30,939 --> 02:50:28,159
absolutely man we love our first time

3179
02:50:32,859 --> 02:50:30,949
and second time callers thank you talk

3180
02:50:36,159 --> 02:50:32,869
to you John thank you so tonight great

3181
02:50:39,239 --> 02:50:36,169
phone call right there yeah that it's

3182
02:50:41,949 --> 02:50:39,249
it's it's getting more and more exciting

3183
02:50:46,029 --> 02:50:41,959
but then again we have to wait for the

3184
02:50:49,059 --> 02:50:46,039
real DNA to come back but my eyes say

3185
02:50:52,349 --> 02:50:49,069
that the video and the evidence that has

3186
02:50:57,580 --> 02:50:52,359
been presented is eye candy of the

3187
02:50:59,010 --> 02:50:57,590
nicest flavor it is it is just dreamy to

3188
02:51:02,019 --> 02:50:59,020
look at I love it

3189
02:51:04,989 --> 02:51:02,029
absolutely love it which means it's too

3190
02:51:08,139 --> 02:51:04,999
good to be true it is it's too good to

3191
02:51:11,409 --> 02:51:08,149
be true because if it is what we think

3192
02:51:14,050 --> 02:51:11,419
that it is it is one of the most

3193
02:51:15,519 --> 02:51:14,060
extremely groundbreaking historic

3194
02:51:18,969 --> 02:51:15,529
moments in human history

3195
02:51:20,710 --> 02:51:18,979
it'll top everything so it's too good to

3196
02:51:23,590 --> 02:51:20,720
be true so let's just wait for the DNA

3197
02:51:25,719 --> 02:51:23,600
to come back and let's see if we can

3198
02:51:28,779 --> 02:51:25,729
move forward and that that is my

3199
02:51:34,000 --> 02:51:28,789
position and I love every minute of it

3200
02:51:37,389 --> 02:51:34,010
and there if it is if it proves to not

3201
02:51:40,420 --> 02:51:37,399
be a hoax just let me say this it was

3202
02:51:44,109 --> 02:51:40,430
bound to happen it was bound to happen

3203
02:51:46,840 --> 02:51:44,119
sooner or later there you go

3204
02:51:49,239 --> 02:51:46,850
all right now I've got a few minutes to

3205
02:51:54,279 --> 02:51:49,249
get to some of the news that you know

3206
02:51:58,280 --> 02:51:54,289
absolutely nothing about first off Kenya

3207
02:52:01,790 --> 02:51:58,290
is in the news because Kenya has banned

3208
02:52:07,640 --> 02:52:01,800
use the manufacture and the importation

3209
02:52:09,560 --> 02:52:07,650
of plastic bags as the government tries

3210
02:52:13,490 --> 02:52:09,570
to protect the country's polluted

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02:52:16,850 --> 02:52:13,500
environment anyone found in violation of

3212
02:52:21,920 --> 02:52:16,860
the ban could be given a maximum penalty

3213
02:52:25,130 --> 02:52:21,930
of $38,000 fine and serve up to a four

3214
02:52:30,170 --> 02:52:25,140
year jail term manufacturers who use

3215
02:52:32,930 --> 02:52:30,180
Polly Polly Polly Fein to wrap products

3216
02:52:35,120 --> 02:52:32,940
are exempt the National Environmental

3217
02:52:37,970 --> 02:52:35,130
and management authority said travelers

3218
02:52:40,880 --> 02:52:37,980
coming to Kenya with duty free plastic

3219
02:52:45,080 --> 02:52:40,890
shop bags would be required to leave

3220
02:52:48,800 --> 02:52:45,090
them at the airport how is that for some

3221
02:52:55,100 --> 02:52:48,810
big news and it's absolutely crazy

3222
02:53:00,590 --> 02:52:55,110
now the FBI are on the hunt that's right

3223
02:53:03,050 --> 02:53:00,600
for two women who dressed as nuns during

3224
02:53:09,350 --> 02:53:03,060
a botched bank robbery in Tannersville

3225
02:53:10,220 --> 02:53:09,360
Pennsylvania yesterday you gotta love

3226
02:53:13,640 --> 02:53:10,230
this country

3227
02:53:16,790 --> 02:53:13,650
law enforcement shared photographs from

3228
02:53:20,180 --> 02:53:16,800
the bank's CCTV footage showing the

3229
02:53:23,720 --> 02:53:20,190
armed women dressed in full-on nun

3230
02:53:26,590 --> 02:53:23,730
costumes the pair entered the Citizens

3231
02:53:30,620 --> 02:53:26,600
Bank on route 611 and Tannersville

3232
02:53:34,100 --> 02:53:30,630
brandishing a handgun now the women used

3233
02:53:35,900 --> 02:53:34,110
the nuns veil and wimple to partially

3234
02:53:38,750 --> 02:53:35,910
cover their faces you can see it in the

3235
02:53:41,690 --> 02:53:38,760
in the in the images that are out there

3236
02:53:46,340 --> 02:53:41,700
right now with one assailant wearing

3237
02:53:48,410 --> 02:53:46,350
sunglasses with the nun outfit one of

3238
02:53:51,380 --> 02:53:48,420
the woman stood at the door while the

3239
02:53:54,470 --> 02:53:51,390
other approached the counter with a gun

3240
02:53:56,450 --> 02:53:54,480
the robbery attempt was cut short when

3241
02:53:58,880 --> 02:53:56,460
an alarm was triggered by a member of

3242
02:54:01,810 --> 02:53:58,890
the staff and then the women turn around

3243
02:54:05,210 --> 02:54:01,820
and ran from the bank without nothing

3244
02:54:07,340 --> 02:54:05,220
totally empty-handed the FBI said it was

3245
02:54:11,030 --> 02:54:07,350
looking for and this is the best part of

3246
02:54:12,140 --> 02:54:11,040
this press release the FBI said it was

3247
02:54:15,341 --> 02:54:12,150
looking forward to his

3248
02:54:22,160 --> 02:54:15,351
spanic women of about five feet tall

3249
02:54:24,680 --> 02:54:22,170
dressed in nuns habits now I'm not

3250
02:54:27,470 --> 02:54:24,690
making this up this actually happened

3251
02:54:34,520 --> 02:54:27,480
yesterday and that was the FBI's press

3252
02:54:36,501 --> 02:54:34,530
release good luck with that now I love

3253
02:54:38,690 --> 02:54:36,511
doing this show because of space rock

3254
02:54:41,631 --> 02:54:38,700
and ice talked about this last month and

3255
02:54:44,180 --> 02:54:41,641
the month before is approaching earth

3256
02:54:47,570 --> 02:54:44,190
yes it is and although it would be

3257
02:54:53,211 --> 02:54:47,580
irresponsible of me to shout incoming

3258
02:54:54,921 --> 02:54:53,221
right now right asteroid 2012 TC 4 and

3259
02:54:58,220 --> 02:54:54,931
you know the name because I've talked

3260
02:55:00,740 --> 02:54:58,230
about it so much well past so close to

3261
02:55:03,200 --> 02:55:00,750
the earth it's gonna freak you out now a

3262
02:55:05,541 --> 02:55:03,210
team of scientists from NASA and the

3263
02:55:07,400 --> 02:55:05,551
European Space Agency the ESA that

3264
02:55:10,730 --> 02:55:07,410
monitor the locations of near-earth

3265
02:55:13,490 --> 02:55:10,740
objects have been tracking asteroid 2012

3266
02:55:15,940 --> 02:55:13,500
TC 4 with various instruments including

3267
02:55:18,890 --> 02:55:15,950
the ESA s Very Large Telescope

3268
02:55:20,720 --> 02:55:18,900
Observatory those observations have made

3269
02:55:23,240 --> 02:55:20,730
it possible to better predict when the

3270
02:55:26,030 --> 02:55:23,250
asteroid will make its flyby of Earth

3271
02:55:29,690 --> 02:55:26,040
and just how close it will be to the

3272
02:55:32,660 --> 02:55:29,700
planet now observing close flybys like

3273
02:55:35,150 --> 02:55:32,670
this also help us to prepare teams to

3274
02:55:38,770 --> 02:55:35,160
detect a near-earth asteroid whose

3275
02:55:44,480 --> 02:55:38,780
course might pose a threat to our planet

3276
02:55:48,190 --> 02:55:44,490
2012 TC 4 will fly by earth October 12th

3277
02:55:51,921 --> 02:55:48,200
at a distance of about now check this

3278
02:55:55,270 --> 02:55:51,931
twenty seven thousand miles or about

3279
02:55:57,530 --> 02:55:55,280
one-eighth the distance to the moon

3280
02:56:01,220 --> 02:55:57,540
previous observations that I have

3281
02:56:04,280 --> 02:56:01,230
reported at here sister-act - that's

3282
02:56:06,890 --> 02:56:04,290
good that's funny Lawrence I like that

3283
02:56:11,780 --> 02:56:06,900
the previous predictions were saying it

3284
02:56:14,240 --> 02:56:11,790
would be as close as 4,200 miles when

3285
02:56:18,680 --> 02:56:14,250
you look at the animations and how the

3286
02:56:20,990 --> 02:56:18,690
orbit is with earth and how and earth is

3287
02:56:24,831 --> 02:56:21,000
coming around and this elliptical orbit

3288
02:56:28,011 --> 02:56:24,841
that as it it is amazing how close

3289
02:56:30,531 --> 02:56:28,021
the clip is but it's gonna be quick and

3290
02:56:36,980 --> 02:56:30,541
fast there you go

3291
02:56:40,551 --> 02:56:36,990
October 12 2012 TC 4 and that concludes

3292
02:56:43,791 --> 02:56:40,561
another episode of fade to black it is

3293
02:56:46,581 --> 02:56:43,801
in the can gotta thank clifford mahooty

3294
02:56:48,801 --> 02:56:46,591
clifford mahooty brought it tonight it

3295
02:56:50,961 --> 02:56:48,811
big time didn't he

3296
02:56:54,801 --> 02:56:50,971
tomorrow night ray Davis is here we're

3297
02:56:56,511 --> 02:56:54,811
gonna do a full evening of anunnaki paid

3298
02:56:58,430 --> 02:56:56,521
to Black's executive producers Riddick

3299
02:57:00,621 --> 02:56:58,440
Omarion shows produced by Hill Jay Paul

3300
02:57:02,631 --> 02:57:00,631
Martin Cole bar LJ 3 Renee Jonas Thank

3301
02:57:05,600 --> 02:57:02,641
You Dennis thank you Bob announces our

3302
02:57:08,741 --> 02:57:05,610
Steve harder gene veto a mark d Kovar

3303
02:57:11,871 --> 02:57:08,751
say D by Dale webmaster drew the geek

3304
02:57:15,711 --> 02:57:11,881
music doug aldrich intro space boys

3305
02:57:18,171 --> 02:57:15,721
space boy music.com thank you to

3306
02:57:20,841 --> 02:57:18,181
everybody that called in tonight and of

3307
02:57:23,270 --> 02:57:20,851
course clifford mahooty fade to black is

3308
02:57:26,480 --> 02:57:23,280
produced by K Jha Network and

3309
02:57:29,001 --> 02:57:26,490
syndication is K GRA the planet this

3310
02:57:30,201 --> 02:57:29,011
broadcast is owned and copyrighted 2017

3311
02:57:32,480 --> 02:57:30,211
by paid to black and the GameChanger

3312
02:57:34,671 --> 02:57:32,490
network it cannot be rebroadcast

3313
02:57:36,531 --> 02:57:34,681
downloaded copied or used anywhere in

3314
02:57:38,270 --> 02:57:36,541
the known universe without written

3315
02:57:40,671 --> 02:57:38,280
permission from fade to black or the

3316
02:57:44,180 --> 02:57:40,681
game changer network I'm your host Jimmy

3317
02:57:47,501 --> 02:57:44,190
Church follow me on Twitter @ JT radio

3318
02:57:50,560 --> 02:57:47,511
until tomorrow night everybody be safe

3319
02:58:01,260 --> 02:57:50,570
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